Vice-President Kamala Harris

Vice-President Kamala Harris

Probably requires her own thread at this moment, lock/delete etc if someone else wins the nom

21 July 2024 at 09:25 PM
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by Slighted P

i want kamala to take on a policy that even Luciom should be able to get behind..

i want to purchase a car directly from the manufacturer and not have to go through a piece of **** car dealership... it's insane. stop car dealership protectionism.. in almost no state in the US can you buy a car from ford.com or wherever, you are forced to go through a car dealership.

You do realize you purchase pretty much everything in some way through a third party


by lozen P

You do realize you purchase pretty much everything in some way through a third party

If you never checked that American quirk you won't know about it.

In most American states you are FORCED to buy through INDEPENDENT car dealers.

Not like in normal countries where dealers are often linked to the brand you care about.


by Luciom P

If you never checked that American quirk you won't know about it.

In most American states you are FORCED to buy through INDEPENDENT car dealers.

Not like in normal countries where dealers are often linked to the brand you care about.

Operates that way in Canada as well and we all know they make their millions on service



This seems like a worthwhile convo to catch up on


Apparently Harris likes alcohol a lot, which is a plus for me , one of the reasons i never really liked Trump is that he is a teetotaller, can't trust those people. In vino veritas.


by Luciom P

Apparently Harris likes alcohol a lot, which is a plus for me , one of the reasons i never really liked Trump is that he is a teetotaller, can't trust those people. In vino veritas.

For me he doesn't have a dog. Never trust a leader that doesn't have a dog though Biden seemed to struggle with dog ownership . I admire anyone that doesn't smoke or drink its all the other qualities I do not like about him


by Luciom P

Apparently Harris likes alcohol a lot, which is a plus for me , one of the reasons i never really liked Trump is that he is a teetotaller, can't trust those people. In vino veritas.

Definitely agree with this.


by Luciom P

Apparently Harris likes alcohol a lot, which is a plus for me , one of the reasons i never really liked Trump is that he is a teetotaller, can't trust those people. In vino veritas.

If you're just going to make stuff up, why not invent something that's actually damaging to Harris?


by Luciom P

Apparently Harris likes alcohol a lot,

What does this mean?


Right wing news sources are spreading the rumor that Harris is an alcholic


by Didace P

What does this mean?

that there is a whole conversation ongoing of the size of the "vance ****s couches" if not bigger, about Harris purported alcolism, which you might not even have noticed because you live in an echo chamber.

Some non-rightwing people have noticed though which is why newsweek felt the need to "debunk" the allegation (without posting a single one of the 20+ videos circulating of Harris speaking in ways that resemble people who are a little drunk, to be fair)

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-d...


Okay. It's a stupid meme. (Just like the Vance thing that on one took seriously.) Move along.


by Luciom P

that there is a whole conversation ongoing of the size of the "vance ****s couches" if not bigger, about Harris purported alcolism, which you might not even have noticed because you live in an echo chamber.

Some non-rightwing people have noticed though which is why newsweek felt the need to "debunk" the allegation (without posting a single one of the 20+ videos circulating of Harris speaking in ways that resemble people who are a little drun

Again, why not invent a scandal people will actually give a **** about?


Based VP Harris if true


by checkraisdraw P

Based VP Harris if true

Yes as I said, I wasn't ironic.

Puritans are the worst.


That alcohol thing is to be the same as the one with pelosi being drunk ?


Harris is proposing taxing UNREALIZED capital gains 25%, can we call it communist expropriation now or even this doesn't qualify? There are very few countries in the world who tax unrealized capital gains


by Luciom P

Harris is proposing taxing UNREALIZED capital gains 25%, can we call it communist expropriation now or even this doesn't qualify? There are very few countries in the world who tax unrealized capital gains

For individuals with assets over 100 million….


by jjjou812 P

For individuals with assets over 100 million….

Yes, communist expropriation of the very wealthy. Keep in mind for most of them it would be equity in stocks and real estate, which means a forced sale of those assets in a market with no buyers because all wealthy people are going to need hundreds of billions at the same time to pay those taxes, which means a disastrous tanking of asset prices which affects even people with less than 100 millions.

The people with 1M in their 401k would suffer disastrously from those forced sales.

You support that policy proposal?


We have an ever-increasing wealth and income gap in this country that can't be sustainable. I don't know the best solution but there will be a tipping point some day if we don't structurally change the way we funnel our nation's wealth to the top.


One reasonable step for the USA would be to remove the cost basis reset at inheritance, which doesn't make ANY sense in a world where the cost basis is well known and provable.

But that's actually feasible in a practical way, without doing any ethically absurd thing nor devastating asset prices and so on.

But democrats don't want to fix anything , they want to pander to the masses with insane proposals that have 0 chance of passing congress only to claim the problem is always bigger and rinse and repeat the charade.

Btw the "income gap" should be defined because there are more upper-middle class households than ever before, it's not like it's 1% vs 99%. It's at most the upper 25% vs the middle, with the bottom not being worse off than they were 20 or 40 years ago (rather better off, especially poor elders).

It's physicians and engineers earning 300-500k / years vs those earning 50k year, not the billionaires vs the homeless.

The USA taxes households at 200-300-500k / year far less than any other first world country, while actual billionaires are taxed more than in many first world countries. You would know that if you didn't follow the insane leftist narrative.

Corporate taxes in sweden are 20.6%. Capital gain is 30%.
Corporate taxes in Italy are 24%. Capital gain is 26%.

With state taxes added in, California is 21 + 8.8*0.79 = 27.95% . Capital gain taxes at the highest bracket are 20 + 3.8 + 13.3 * 0.762 = 33.9%

This means that RIGHT NOW, with Trump tax cuts still working, if you make a startup in california and sell it for 5 billions, you pay more taxes than if you do the same in Sweden or in Italy. Did you know that?


You mean we can TAKE some of the money HOARDED by those with over 100 million dollars in assets, including those at the top of the crypto pyramid?

Wow! This is news to me. I thought those in the 9-figure club were gods on earth and were entitled to abuse the rest of us in perpetuity.

On a non-related note, the top marginal income tax rate is currently 37%. It was between 63%-91% in the years 1932-1981, then 50% between '81-'86 (13% higher than now in the REAGAN years). Were all of these policymakers also COMMIES, or was that just normal tax policy and that problem is that economic perception and acceptance of income inequality has changed since?


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

You mean we can TAKE some of the money HOARDED by those with over 100 million dollars in assets, including those at the top of the crypto pyramid?

Wow! This is news to me. I thought those in the 9-figure club were gods on earth and were entitled to abuse the rest of us in perpetuity.

On a non-related note, the top marginal income tax rate is currently 37%. It was between 63%-91% in the years 1932-1981, then 50% between '81-'86 (13% higher

No she doesn't propose to take from the hoarding, which comes in cash or treasuries, rather from the people who built or bought something and that something increased in value. The "hoarding" of you know their real estate (on which they already pay a lot of taxes) or their stocks, the ownership of their own company (lol at hoarding).

Almost no one paid the top marginal income tax when it was far higher, it was a statutory number that almost never applied for a variety of reasons. Which is why the fiscal intake of the federal government as a % of gdp is pretty stable since ww2 (ie taxes weren't cut).

Btw the fact that KARL MARX (the user of the forum) agrees with the policy allows me to call it a communist policy.


by Luciom P

This means that RIGHT NOW, with Trump tax cuts still working, if you make a startup in california and sell it for 5 billions, you pay more taxes than if you do the same in Sweden or in Italy. Did you know that?

If you're poor in America, you may not have stable housing, predators all around you are trying to get you hooked on relatively cheap but very dangerous drugs, and your average lifespan and quality of life plummet to become comparable to Global South standards, but hey, let's gush more about Trump's tax cuts and how they affect engineers and business startup freaks who came up with a sick plan to re-name that Elizabeth Holmes blood company and somehow make $5B from it!


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

If you're poor in America, you may not have stable housing, predators all around you are trying to get you hooked on relatively cheap but very dangerous drugs, and your average lifespan and quality of life plummet to become comparable to Global South standards, but hey, let's gush more about Trump's tax cuts and how they affect engineers and business startup freaks who came up with a sick plan to re-name that Elizabeth Holmes blood company

Try to read again, i am trying to teach you that RIGHT NOW, EVEN with trump cuts applied, taxes are HIGHER IN CALIFORNIA THAN IN MOST OTHER COUNTRIES for billionaires lol.

Read again. Higher.

You can claim they should be even higher, sure. Or that every state should tax as california, sure (but many are democrat led and don't: ask them not the feds).

But what you can't claim, is that inequality is lower in europe because they tax billionaires more. They don't in most countries. Inequality is lower in europe because 1) it's a lot harder to make a lot of money even if you are really good in europe 2) the uppermiddle class, not the billionaires, are taxed insanely more, and that matters a lot more for inequality stats that what you do to billionaires.


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