Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
I don't have the time, atm but for now and possible forever I will just say that I disagree.
For starters, alcohol causes you brain to produce lower levels of dopamine as a result to balance out the artificial dopamine boost you get from drinking. Simply put, the more you drink the less dopamine when sober, leading you to want to drink all the time and feeling like more **** when you don't. Which just leads to an ever shrinking euphoric window for your hedonist lifestyle.
If that's true it still sounds preferable to maximising your life expectancy with a tedious regime of salads and gym workouts. Some people would much rather live a full and varied life that ends in their 60s than a life of monotony that stretches out to their 80s.
If that's true it still sounds preferable to maximising your life expectancy with a tedious regime of salads and gym workouts. Some people would much rather live a full and varied life that ends in their 60s than a life of monotony that stretches out to their 80s.
Yeah the idea is you can't have any alcohol at all and you can only eat salads. Better yet, blend them and drink them.
Come on.
If the suggestion is that people shouldn't get pissed because it's bad for their health I reject that alternative and so has/does every interesting person I've ever known.
"The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom."
If someone's alcohol consumption is almost all beer there's very little physical damage they'll do to their bodies unless they're on the super strength for decades.
The examples talked about here were heavy wine drinking which is another thing altogether - France had terrible cirrhosis and alcoholism problems for a long time.
Re. pleasure - some people just find life too mundane and people too reserved without alcohol adding an interesting ra
this is not true. 2-3 drinks a day will keep alcohol in your system which ****s your body up in multiple ways. mostly it ****s up your blood cell production as youre soaking your bones in alcohol 24/7. its also very bad for your brain.
Are you sure that 8 beers a day is worse for you than 8 cups of coffee a day (physical effects on health only)? I have no idea, but I don't see that as an obvious fact.
8 a day? Long term? Uh, yeah? The caloric load alone will mess you up, to say nothing of what that does to your mood and your vital organs.
Some denial going on ITT, it's the classic case of the guy who thinks he's okay because he only drinks in the evening or only drinks beer instead of hard alcohol.
guessing way more people drink 8 beers per day than 8 coffees
I'd have thought that in a discussion around interesting lifestyle choices the guy who's spent every available moment of the last ~20 years trolling anonymously online and failing to connect with anyone might want to stand back.
I'd have thought that in a discussion around interesting lifestyle choices the guy who's spent every available moment of the last ~20 years trolling anonymously online and failing to connect with anyone might want to stand back.
Alcohol is a thief. I drank 3 drinks a day for years cause I didn’t like the girls I was dating at the time. It’s terrible for you. Now I drink like 6 drinks a month. Much better.
If that's true it still sounds preferable to maximising your life expectancy with a tedious regime of salads and gym workouts. Some people would much rather live a full and varied life that ends in their 60s than a life of monotony that stretches out to their 80s.
Do your thing, obv. I did that lifestyle and i dont share your experiences on it being a full and varied life but w/e.
If the suggestion is that people shouldn't get pissed because it's bad for their health I reject that alternative and so has/does every interesting person I've ever known.
"The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom."
Brother get pissed. If you do it every day, there might be a problem yet as long as you don't beat your missus, you're not an alcoholic.
I believe he's redefining alcoholism because by the traditional definition he was one, perhaps still is?
I smoke weed multiple times a day and could potentially smoke 50 blunts in a day if I wanted but I'm not a pot head because I have a well paying job and some friends
Brother get pissed. If you do it every day, there might be a problem yet as long as you don't beat your missus, you're not an alcoholic.
I believe he's redefining alcoholism because by the traditional definition he was one, perhaps still is?
fyi I'm defending the lifestyle I used to lead. I stopped enjoying it so much five to ten years ago and since then have only had a few beers every month. I've enjoyed the change.
If that's true it still sounds preferable to maximising your life expectancy with a tedious regime of salads and gym workouts. Some people would much rather live a full and varied life that ends in their 60s than a life of monotony that stretches out to their 80s.
Reducing physical activity to a tedium will usually result in a sedentary lifestyle, so your point here is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It's not like it has to be tedious however, and I'm hard pressed to see how being active is somehow in conflict with living a "full and varied life".
Keeping reasonably fit gives you more options in life, not less.
Other than that, where is the actual conflict? Person A's lifestyle choices might not be for Person B, and that's fine. It doesn't mean either of them made the wrong choice. That is something only they can answer.
Are you sure that 8 beers a day is worse for you than 8 cups of coffee a day (physical effects on health only)? I have no idea, but I don't see that as an obvious fact.
Brother get pissed. If you do it every day, there might be a problem yet as long as you don't beat your missus, you're not an alcoholic.
I believe he's redefining alcoholism because by the traditional definition he was one, perhaps still is?
fyi I'm defending the lifestyle I used to lead. I stopped enjoying it so much five to ten years ago and since then have only had a few beers every month. I've enjoyed the change.
good me too
fyi I'm defending the lifestyle I used to lead. I stopped enjoying it so much five to ten years ago and since then have only had a few beers every month. I've enjoyed the change.
We all get old brother. I don't enjoy it much anymore either. I got drunk at a wedding in June and was hungover for 2 days. No thanks.
I must admit I basically agree with jalfrezi on the topic even if he tried to distance himself from what I wrote he ended up writing the same
Reducing physical activity to a tedium will usually result in a sedentary lifestyle, so your point here is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It's not like it has to be tedious however, and I'm hard pressed to see how being active is somehow in conflict with living a "full and varied life".
Keeping reasonably fit gives you more options in life, not less.
Other than that, where is the actual conflict? Person A's lifestyle choices might
Lol man really, where is the conflict when a lot of people want to tax lifestyles they disagree with in obscene ways?
Really?
Make all and any vice taxes fully unconstitutional and there is no conflict
Other than that, where is the actual conflict? Person A's lifestyle choices might not be for Person B, and that's fine. It doesn't mean either of them made the wrong choice. That is something only they can answer.
Lifestyles based around maximising health aren't for everyone - let people drink and have fun without being told they're unhealthy.
Lifestyles based around maximising health aren't for everyone - let people drink and have fun without being told they're unhealthy.
I'd agree that one shouldn't go around telling people that their lifestyle is wrong, but I see no problem with pointing out that a specific lifestyle choice is unhealthy. Wrong and unhealthy are two different things.
That said, there is no need to be a preacher and lord that over people. They usually know.
