Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
Obesity is a very sensitive subject and it has many causes that I don't understand well, so I'd stay a mile away from that subject and leave it to their doctor to best advise them.
I'd agree that one shouldn't go around telling people that their lifestyle is wrong, but I see no problem with pointing out that a specific lifestyle choice is unhealthy. Wrong and unhealthy are two different things.
That said, there is no need to be a preacher and lord that over people. They usually know.
So why do you tax their choices?
Obesity is a very sensitive subject and it has many causes that I don't understand well, so I'd stay a mile away from that subject and leave it to their doctor to best advise them.
Doctor would tell them to lose weight and stop doing stuff that's detrimental to their health, like for example drinking too much alcohol or eating too much.
Nothing wrong with telling people who are unhealthy that they are unhealthy. We're all in this together buddy.
I smoke weed multiple times a day and could potentially smoke 50 blunts in a day if I wanted but I'm not a pot head because I have a well paying job and some friends
Seems doubtful you'd be able to smoke that many blunts before the tobacco starts making you sick assuming you don't regularly partake in other sources of nicotine. My limit is probably like 4 or 5.
For those who didn't like my coffee example - gram for gram, is beer worse for you than Pepsi (was gonna say "Coke", but cue the obv "probably, if you're snorting it" jokes)? Red bull?
Ironically, the smarter you are, the better you are at rationalizing terrible choices. I think d2 is on the mend, but telling people eight beers a day is no biggie or no different than drinking too much coffee seems irresponsible.
Any lifestyle reliant on fun most likely stopped being fun years before you were willing to admit it to yourself. Because then what?
For those who didn't like my coffee example - gram for gram, is beer worse for you than Pepsi (was gonna say "Coke", but cue the obv "probably, if you're snorting it" jokes)? Red bull?
Where is this even going now lol?
I'm sure we can all agree that drinking 8 cans of Pepsi or Red bull is also very bad for you, maybe even worse than 8 beers.
For those who didn't like my coffee example - gram for gram, is beer worse for you than Pepsi (was gonna say "Coke", but cue the obv "probably, if you're snorting it" jokes)? Red bull?
Yes beer is worse for you than Pepsi in identical quantities.
For one you get more calories from beer , like triple (450 vs 150).
And very few people properly account for those calories in their daily intake of 2000 or whatever they equilibrium number is (linked to age, sex, size and physical activity)
Ironically, the smarter you are, the better you are at rationalizing terrible choices. I think d2 is on the mend, but telling people eight beers a day is no biggie or no different than drinking too much coffee seems irresponsible.
Where is this even going now lol?
I'm sure we can all agree that drinking 8 cans of Pepsi or Red bull is also very bad for you, maybe even worse than 8 beers.
I am just questioning what appears to be received wisdom about all forms of alcoholic beverages being atrocious for your health. It's not immediately obvious to me that alcohol is necessarily worse health-wise when consumed in excess than a bunch of other things. I'm not saying that it's a good reason to get plastered every night.
It's a marijuana cigar (almost always cigarillos and not actually blunts which are a specific type of cigar).
You take the cigarillo and split it open, remove the tobacco, fill with marijuana and reroll it. Like a joint but longer and thicker and instead of paper you're using tobacco leaf.
They were popularized by black america but are pretty common across all demographics of youngish weed smoking Americans nowadays.
Ironically, the smarter you are, the better you are at rationalizing terrible choices. I think d2 is on the mend, but telling people eight beers a day is no biggie or no different than drinking too much coffee seems irresponsible.
I've never denied being an alchie, and I'm not suggesting that I've quit for good. I just haven't been drinking recently for reasons that have little to do with actual drinking.
Is coffee even considered bad for you?
Gram for gram I'd have to assume Pepsi is worse.
Don't think so but also not sure in what quantity it does become bad. I think like 400+ mg a day is considered ''too much'' which is 10 cups? maybe more? Not sure I don't drink coffee.
I am just questioning what appears to be received wisdom about all forms of alcoholic beverages being atrocious for your health. It's not obvious to me that alcohol is necessarily worse health-wise when consumed in excess than a bunch of other things. I'm not saying that it's a good reason to get plastered every night.
Can we just agree that 8 beers a day is bad for you? That 8 Red Bulls a day is also bad for you and that 8 cans of Pepsi is also bad for you?
Like the great philosopher Ronaldo once said. Just drink water.
I've never denied being an alchie, and I'm not suggesting that I've quit for good. I just haven't been drinking recently for reasons that have little to do with actual drinking.
Eh, sorry if I come across as a dick here, it's just I've seen firsthand the rationalizations people come up with to maintain their daily alcohol/drug habits.
There's probably a point at which drinking too much Coke Zero is worse than a daily six-pack of beer, but I'm not sure what that proves and people might take the wrong lesson away from the comparison. Caffeine can be physically addictive but I don't think it ****s with the brain's reward center in nearly the same way as alcohol.
The difference between someone paying lip service to the truth that their habits are harmful and someone willing to hold themselves to that truth is a strong sense of destiny.
If I genuinely believe that I am destined to finish in a good place, better than my current situation, then the truth serves me because the truth will eventually guide me to that good end state. Lacking this strong sense of destiny, why would I hold myself to truths which bear a heavy cost?
The trick is to focus on strengthening your sense of destiny.
The difference between someone paying lip service to the truth that their habits are harmful and someone willing to hold themselves to that truth is a strong sense of destiny.
If I genuinely believe that I am destined to finish in a good place, better than my current situation, then the truth serves me because the truth will eventually guide me to that good end state. Lacking this strong sense of destiny, why would I hold myself to truths wh
Hate to break it to you bud, but your destiny is to end up in the ground as worm food just like the rest of us. All that heaven stuff is a fairy tale made up by the elites so you toe the line like a good little sheeple.
For those who didn't like my coffee example - gram for gram, is beer worse for you than Pepsi (was gonna say "Coke", but cue the obv "probably, if you're snorting it" jokes)? Red bull?
I think this is a good comparison and I literally avoid both of these whenever I can. I think if you completely removed the mental health effects of 8 beers v 8 cokes a day, I'd still say that beer is slightly worse.
8 cokes is a life altering amount of sugar that is likely going to play in becoming diabetic but other than that, i don't see it doing too much more.
I'd imagine in practice, 8 beers is going to lead to a lot of people to overeating shitting food and on top of the all the calories and your still battling some pretty credible data on the increases of cancer and heart disease that's linked to it - but I think other contributing factors like over eating from alcohol also plays a role in that.
Maybe if you can drink 8 beers a day, maintain the same diet as the soda drinker, hydrate yourself and get the same level of exercise while not caring that you cant seem to enjoy anything in life when your not drinking the 8 beers - it would probably be about the same i guess
Id rather drink 8 beers than smoke a pack of cigs
Hate to break it to you bud, but your destiny is to end up in the ground as worm food just like the rest of us. All that heaven stuff is a fairy tale made up by the elites so you toe the line like a good little sheeple.
I got to where I am through pragmaticism. It starts with overcoming unwanted habits. What I said works, which is what matters.
