[GGPoker]: Natural8, etc

[GGPoker]: Natural8, etc

Anybody heard of this site? If yes, how is it?

15 March 2016 at 06:59 AM
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Not only bots, but also winning players are banned without providing any reason.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57/ge...


so how did you cheat?


The worst offense you can commit on GGPoker is winning and withdrawing money.

Bot:They can conduct a professional verification with a camera while I play, just like they do for VIP players

Collusion – you have 1 second to make a move, so before I could pass information to someone, I’d hit 5 sitouts. But hypothetically, let them show any hands that are -EV or illogical.

Multiaccount – in AoF, what's the point of playing on two accounts when it’s better to make the leaderboard in the top 3 (where the differences are only a few cents)?

Farms – decisions are made preflop, so the information wouldn't help anyway. Plus, you have 1 second to make a move, so you’d hit 5 sitouts. If there are too many regs, your EV drops, and the table becomes unprofitable.

VPN – it’s easy to detect, they would have likely caught me after 3-4 years.

Exploiting weak players: I take all the available tables. There are usually 10-15 in total, and I occupy a maximum of 9 tables; before the update, I would have taken all 15.

Helpful programs: which ones and why? When you're playing against the general population, it's as simple as memorizing multiplication tables… unless you count watching YouTube in the background or listening to an audiobook


I dead bubbled a mtt KK
I guess it is because I am still showing a small lifetime profit on GG

-I got regd for it a dozen times and never once won a cent of C$ lol
it pays 25% of the field...


Another bot, this time from Russia in the nl10 pool. His previous screen name was 'neural network' can't make this **** up.



by PrsHarlequin P

I dead bubbled a mtt KK
I guess it is because I am still showing a small lifetime profit on GG

You'd get more ggcares by playing cash games instead of MTTs.

by PrsHarlequin P


-I got regd for it a dozen times and never once won a cent of C$ lol
it pays 25% of the field...

Unlucky I cashed 4 times this week alone and my stacks were nowhere as big as the high stakes regs.


Is the N8 minimum withdrawal really $500 or am I missing something?

I made a $25 Bitcoin deposit to try the site out and won a little bit and weeks later went to the withdrawal page and to my surprise it said $500 minimum withdrawal. Seriously is this correct? On Bovada recently I got a message saying that Bitcoin withdrawals were going up to $100 minimum while Litecoin was staying at $10 minimum. Is N8 something like that where Bitcoin is higher withdrawal but some other coin or method is lower? Thanks.


by blue.feet P

Is the N8 minimum withdrawal really $500 or am I missing something?

I made a $25 Bitcoin deposit to try the site out and won a little bit and weeks later went to the withdrawal page and to my surprise it said $500 minimum withdrawal. Seriously is this correct? On Bovada recently I got a message saying that Bitcoin withdrawals were going up to $100 minimum while Litecoin was staying at $10 minimum. Is N8 something like that where Bitcoin i

I know you can withdrawal USDC/USDT via Polygon Network with a $100 min.
USDC via Binance Smart Chain with $50 min.


This might be to broad a question, but what kind of volume is required on nl25 rush& cash to place on the leaderboard?
For instance, how many hands are people playing to accumulate 10.000 points? I know this is highly dependent on playing style, but just some ballpark figure.


You need to play 18 hours a day each day. All the cool kids do


Hi there, I know that a lot of regs are turning their back on gg because of the astonishing rake + not really possible to go above 1bb/100 (speaking about rush and cash here), but it still seems that the rakeback, leaderboards and all these bonuses are worth playing in these conditions

I play in a seggregated pool where the traffic is kinda off except after 5PM, I can still make a living playing 200NL but i'm probably in the 10% poorest pros in the world (at least in europe). Do you think it would be profitable to play on gg in my case?


if you can make a living im pretty sure you playing on gg is profitable


Why/How is smarthand allowed?

No HUDs! But you are fine to check every players life time sample on GG through a 3rd party website.

Honestly blew my mind that this was accepted behaviour, and the sponsored pros think this is okay too?

Also what % of Austrian accounts playing 100nl+ are Austrian citizens? I would guess less than 50%.


by iamreallycrap P

Why/How is smarthand allowed?

No HUDs! But you are fine to check every players life time sample on GG through a 3rd party website.

Honestly blew my mind that this was accepted behaviour, and the sponsored pros think this is okay too?

Also what % of Austrian accounts playing 100nl+ are Austrian citizens? I would guess less than 50%.

It is what it is. You can allways do the same? And about austrians does it really matter? You don't need to be austrian to play from austria. Players relocate all the time because in some countries legislation forces them if you want to play. It's the same with stars fe.


I get that an unenforceable rule is not really a rule, and I dont consider it cheating or anything.
I'm more wondering why GG allows the datamining of tables. Why not make the tables un-observable and kill it dead.

Sure I can do the same and we're essentially forced to do so if we want to maintain a level playing field vs regs.

Personally I think restricted countries is bad thing for the game. Was mostly just pointing out that GG has an issue with people playing accounts that are not legit, usually to attain higher rakeback than their original account and/or to play from restricted countries and/or to perform tax evasion.


Yeah having agents and sheet to play from anywhere is real shady to say the least. Locating to somewhere where you can play is whatever imo and like I said you can do that with any other site also. If I had to guess why the lobbies are not anonymous when they are so hard on bumhunting is to cater for recs who wants to rail their mates etc.


by iamreallycrap P

Why/How is smarthand allowed?

No HUDs! But you are fine to check every players life time sample on GG through a 3rd party website.

Honestly blew my mind that this was accepted behaviour, and the sponsored pros think this is okay too?

Also what % of Austrian accounts playing 100nl+ are Austrian citizens? I would guess less than 50%.

The worst thing about smarthand is that it gives even more edge to players who can change/create new accounts via their agents/affiliates, because they can constantly get a new account with a new nickname and thus become somewhat anonymous, and in such a large pool there is no way to make a connection between an old player leaving and a new guy showing up the next day. So the smarthand thing gives even more edge against players who acutally play by the rules and don't change accounts.


What are people raking (in bb/100) at the deep ante tables? Specifically interested in 1/2 and 2/5. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help


What different between N8 and ggpuke?
I already have N8 account but long time no play, my friend said me to create a ggpuke account which no need kyc, and have 10% deposit bonus?
I mainly play MTT, what should i choose?


Hey i play on Natural8.

I have downloaded all my hands to add them to a database to review and identity strenghts, weakness, leaks and so on.

However i have tried everything that i can think off, but can't seem to get HM2, PT4 og Hand2note to load any of the hands?

Do they need to be converted or anyone have an idea what i can try.


by iamreallycrap P

I get that an unenforceable rule is not really a rule, and I dont consider it cheating or anything.
I'm more wondering why GG allows the datamining of tables. Why not make the tables un-observable and kill it dead.

Sure I can do the same and we're essentially forced to do so if we want to maintain a level playing field vs regs.

Personally I think restricted countries is bad thing for the game. Was mostly just pointing out that GG has an issue


?

GG of course is not supporting datamining

smarthand and all other hh providers are operating grey/black


by funnythanh P

What different between N8 and ggpuke?
I already have N8 account but long time no play, my friend said me to create a ggpuke account which no need kyc, and have 10% deposit bonus?
I mainly play MTT, what should i choose?


from which country are you playing?


by ReadsEnhancer P

from which country are you playing?

Viet Nam.


Im going to live in Thailand in a few months. I'm a UK citizen. Can I open a GG/N8 account in Thailand? Will I be hit with deposit limits like in the UK? I am planning on grinding 200 RNC so I need to be able to deposit a good bankroll chunk on there in one go


by cbhelten1g P

Hey i play on Natural8.

I have downloaded all my hands to add them to a database to review and identity strenghts, weakness, leaks and so on.

However i have tried everything that i can think off, but can't seem to get HM2, PT4 og Hand2note to load any of the hands?

Do they need to be converted or anyone have an idea what i can try.

HM2 doesn't support GG/N8 hands. I made a python script that converts them to pokerstars format so can be imported. Hand replayer isn't working but everything else, graph/stats etc.. works. DM if you want it. It's made for R&C and reg tables nlhe but can make it work for other formats also.


by funnythanh P

Viet Nam.


Vietnam has exclusivity on Natural8

you should keep playing there, maybe retagging your existing account for getting bonusses


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