£200 MTT hand 2
Blinds are 1k/2k/2k
Stack c100k
Average 140k
MP (appears to be nervous in most hands and not fully in touch with the game. Maybe new to live poker?) opens to 4.5 and is called by his immediate neighbour who is the exact opposite. He’s very comfortable and very active.
I have As10s on the button and opt to flat call.
Pot - 18.5k
Flop 6s7s4c
MP jams 43k
Mr Active rejams covering me…
12 Replies
I'm probably folding this pre flop, a not so competent player opens and gets smooth called by a competent player, A10ss can't do well against this range, unless you're willing to c/f a lot of flops and not get in danger.
As played this is tricky, there's probably no one with a straight, 53 or 58 don't make any sense from both players, so it's probably an OP against a set, maybe a combo draw but unlikely, it could also be an aggressive move with KQss from Mr Active, and MP just jamming with like JJ or something over protecting his hand.
Are we late into the tournament, close to cashing? Having some of that info could help in deciding whether calling or folding is the right play, my gut instinct, I am probably sigh folding.
Fold. The nervous guy shoving 2x pot almost always has something. Our A and T are very unlikely to be outs against both these guys, and our spades aren't even always good. MP has a small stack so we don't even get the full triple up if we hit.
I'm not even convinced it's +EV but even if it's close this is a fold in a tournament.
I call here. Mostly because of your description of the players. Partly because it is hands like these that can help us go deep. When I fold hands like these and would have won, I know I am not going to fare well the rest of the tournament...
The problem is I think the guy who rejammed (V2) is unlikely to have a flush draw or a straight draw (or both). He would be better off just calling to see if we can call and win him some more. It wouldn't do V2 any good to get us to fold if he doesn't hit his draw anyway.
Still I like the chance to more than double up. Even if we lose to MP we can basically break even if we beat V2. I think V2 can have 88/99 here and wants us to fold since he is going to call anyway in case MP has AK or some kind of draw. V2 could also have JJ/TT which would still leave us about 44% to win it all (unless MP has AA...). If V2 has a set we would have about 27% chance to win it all so it still isn't horrible.
I like the pre-flop call on the BTN. We have a decent hand and if we flop two pair or KQJ we can win a lot.
I'm probably folding this pre flop, a not so competent player opens and gets smooth called by a competent player, A10ss can't do well against this range, unless you're willing to c/f a lot of flops and not get in danger.
As played this is tricky, there's probably no one with a straight, 53 or 58 don't make any sense from both players, so it's probably an OP against a set, maybe a combo draw but unlikely, it could also be an aggressive move w
In position I disagree with the thought that this could be a fold pre.
We’re in level 6 so plenty of time to go and one more day1 available.
I call here. Mostly because of your description of the players. Partly because it is hands like these that can help us go deep. When I fold hands like these and would have won, I know I am not going to fare well the rest of the tournament...
The problem is I think the guy who rejammed (V2) is unlikely to have a flush draw or a straight draw (or both). He would be better off just calling to see if we can call and win him some more. It wo
I like your thought process, although it’s not quite the scientific analysis of the spot that I was hoping for 😅😂.
I did call because “I couldn’t forgive myself if I folded”.
People at the table had mixed opinions about the correctness of that.
This is probably a fold pre when a fish opens to 4.5x because his range just has us crushed imho.
As played flop is just a fist pump gii.
This is probably a fold pre when a fish opens to 4.5x because his range just has us crushed imho.
I think it's a raise to 4.5k, not 4.5x.
I'm probably folding this pre flop, a not so competent player opens and gets smooth called by a competent player, A10ss can't do well against this range, unless you're willing to c/f a lot of flops and not get in danger.
ATs is way too strong to fold having the button and so many nutted possibilities. Given the description of HJ, his range could be pretty wide here. You could even squeeze this hand some of the time playing off that.
Multiple replies saying fold pre, wow
It wasn’t, but @ 4.5x feel like it’s a pretty easy exploitative fold.
Obv at normal sizing easy call/sometimes 3b/squeeze.
