2024 ELECTION THREAD
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The lady right next to Trump...
Is that a piece sign with the little fingers?
Or is that the white power sign?
"Hook 'em, horns"? Regardless, it's the same as the woman at the far left of the pic.
But now that you've drawn my attention to her, I'm more curious about what is going on with her left forearm.
To the shock of absolutely no one, Speaker of the House ‘my son gets an alert when I watch porn’ pulled strings to arrange the entire Arlington fiasco
What is it about MAGA chuds that they can’t stop stepping on rakes?
how long have you worked here?
how long have you worked here?
how long have you worked here?
how long have you worked here?
To the shock of absolutely no one, Speaker of the House ‘my son gets an alert when I watch porn’ pulled strings to arrange the entire Arlington fiasco
What is it about MAGA chuds that they can’t stop stepping on rakes?
In some hours when the MAGA ecosystem has finally determined what the talking points will be, we'll start to see them trickle down into posts here. We should probably just enjoy the lull.
I saw a maga Facebook post before he went there that said, "Donald Trump is at Arlington cemetery, where is Kamala?"
Oops
I don't quite understand what point Luciom is trying to make by bringing up the Dutch tax system (or maybe it's just that I disagree with the premise that risk should be rewarded and thus fiscally incentivized), but I'm pretty sure they will be sad to hear that we are finally moving away from taxing fictitious gains (and most everyone thinks that's for the better)
that currently circulating political proposals to tax the wealthy in the USA are really terrible which, given there is no shortage of actually capable economists in the democratic party, means there is no intention to actually tax wealth.
that, coupled with the fact that democratic led states could tax financial wealth but don't, is proof enough they don't want to tax it, but they want to pretend they want to, because of how gullible they think their voters are (can't argue with that).
and as usual even if this is very transparent, no admission by the "very important experts" here and elsewhere that those proposals are actually what populism is about
that currently circulating political proposals to tax the wealthy in the USA are really terrible which, given there is no shortage of actually capable economists in the democratic party, means there is no intention to actually tax wealth.
that, coupled with the fact that democratic led states could tax financial wealth but don't, is proof enough they don't want to tax it, but they want to pretend they want to, because of how gullible they th
So it is basically the new "reparations" proposal.
I dont know how much any of you guys follow CA politics, but the state formed a "reparations panel" that spent years researching reparations (on the taxpayers dime of course), that came up with a completely asinine set of reparation recommendations; and then all the party elites pretty much just ignored the panels recommendations, because it was too ridiculous to even acknowledge.
Watching Trump trying to walk back his position on abortion rights is hysterical. And a tactical error too. First, no woman is going to believe him. Second, he's only going to anger his existing anti-abortion base.
Watching Trump trying to walk back his position on abortion rights is hysterical. And a tactical error too. First, no woman is going to believe him. Second, he's only going to anger his existing anti-abortion base.
yes if trump moves to the left on an issue like abortion where the population polls against republican positions, that's hysterical and wrong politically.
while when Harris moves right on an issue where the population polls against democrat positions like the border, that's genius and correct politically.
Watching Trump trying to walk back his position on abortion rights is hysterical. And a tactical error too. First, no woman is going to believe him. Second, he's only going to anger his existing anti-abortion base.
i think you're severely underestimating just how much water some people will carry for him if he only implies something vaguely
i think you're severely underestimating just how much water some people will carry for him if he only implies something vaguely
Politico: ‘It Is Not the Job of the Pro-Life Movement to Vote for President Trump.’
For years, the anti-abortion activist Lila Rose has pushed the GOP to curtail access to abortion. But now, as Donald Trump and his running mate JD Vance conspicuously soften their abortion message ahead of the November election, Rose — who leads the prominent anti-abortion group Live Action — is embracing a more radical strategy: Urging her followers not to vote for Trump unless he changes course.
That position — which she teased in a series of social media posts earlier this week — defies both Democratic and Republican common sense about Trump’s strategy on abortion. In the eyes of many Democrats and anti-abortion conservatives who support Trump, a second-term Trump would still be sympathetic to the anti-abortion cause — even if he needs to moderate his message to win in November.
But since Trump and Vance have come out against a number of the anti-abortion movement’s key policy priorities — including a national abortion ban, a crackdown on the abortion pill and restrictions on IVF — Rose, who leveraged her large internet following into influence in the first Trump White House, is no longer confident that Trump is an ally, she told POLITICO Magazine. “It’s disappointing to say — but perhaps he personally lacks principle on this issue,” said Rose.
Rose’s position has inspired fierce resistance from some on the right who argue that a Trump presidency would still be better for the anti-abortion movement than a Harris administration. (Several of the most prominent anti-abortion groups are still backing Trump.)
But Rose said that’s not enough. If the election were today, she’d be writing in a candidate other than Trump or Harris. “Don’t get me wrong. … I would love to see him stop saying this nonsense about supporting abortion. But unfortunately, that’s not the case.”
Source: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2...
yep and it's absolutely not credible at all, they will still all vote for him anyway.
it's just posturing to pressure on the topic
4 words tell the story well
yep and it's absolutely not credible at all, they will still all vote for him anyway.
it's just posturing to pressure on the topic
Probably, but the hope for anti-abortion policy was a big turnout motivator in the last election. Most of that is gone this election after the SCOTUS Roe decision, so anything which risks further turnout disincentive on this topic is a definite negative for Trump.
Watching Trump trying to walk back his position on abortion rights is hysterical. And a tactical error too. First, no woman is going to believe him. Second, he's only going to anger his existing anti-abortion base.
surprised nobody has said this yet. its prolly the one thing for 5 years he has said over and over again, he keeps just cramming that its up to states. it was always his goal. he has never sid it he wants to ouright ban it (mybe he wants to ) but he never said a full ban just up to states. a lot of republicans who re sane have echoed that. actrual sane republicans know they would flat out lose if they came out and suported the extreme pro lifers.
as for the harris interview, it wasnt bad at all, i think the moderator was fair and harris has the last week came across far more left than progressive side of things. smart.
I actually think that the whole “flip flop” thing might help her more than hurt her. The more they attack her on that, the more they are drawing out that she is quite moderate now. I think many Americans have gotten a little less progressive over the past few years, so it’s not some huge gotchya as they are making it out to be.
I actually think that the whole “flip flop” thing might help her more than hurt her. The more they attack her on that, the more they are drawing out that she is quite moderate now. I think many Americans have gotten a little less progressive over the past few years, so it’s not some huge gotchya as they are making it out to be.
There is simply an attempt to claim that her moderate positions today are a lie, to which she will answer that no they are true, and nothing much will change as most people already decided and so on
I actually think that the whole “flip flop” thing might help her more than hurt her. The more they attack her on that, the more they are drawing out that she is quite moderate now. I think many Americans have gotten a little less progressive over the past few years, so it’s not some huge gotchya as they are making it out to be.
Flip-flopping is a great topic for cable news segments, but you're right that it doesn't play terribly with voters
EDIT -- That is, if you end up to what's seen as a moderated position.
Kamala has never done a single progressive thing in her entire life. you guys got nothing to worry about.
yes if trump moves to the left on an issue like abortion where the population polls against republican positions, that's hysterical and wrong politically.
while when Harris moves right on an issue where the population polls against democrat positions like the border, that's genius and correct politically.
Isn’t that exactly how u you’ll react ?
Trump going left is bad because it’s left .
Harris going right is good because it’s right .
So what’s wrong with it ?
Couch****er displaying some real courage, manliness and strength with the forceful refusal to apologize to someone who was suicidal over the video he used to mock someone
Is it a requirement that to serve in Trump’s orbit you are required to be a subhuman shitbag without the slightest bit of accountability or empathy?
Couch****er displaying some real courage, manliness and strength with the forceful refusal to apologize to someone who was suicidal over the video he used to mock someone
I dislike JD Vance, but there is no reason to apologize for anything anymore in American politics. If you ever give an apology, it’s pretty much the end of your career, while people who don’t apologize stay successful.
Still he is a depraved individual that can’t be allowed anywhere near the white house.
