2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
Claims of "lawfare" is the latest incarnation of Republican psychological projection, ie they have zero evidence Democrats are actually engaged in it while ignoring the ample evidence of Trump's explicit attempts to use it, as in audio and video recordings of him asking a foreign leader and his AG to investigate his political rivals.
Claims of "lawfare" is the latest incarnation of Republican psychological projection, ie they have zero evidence Democrats are actually engaged in it while ignoring the ample evidence of Trump's explicit attempts to use it, as in audio and video recordings of him asking a foreign leader and his AG to investigate his political rivals.
Dems are better at hiding it? The drummed up election interference case is full on lawfare.
Trump's AG appointed a special prosecutor.... later Trump was caught soliciting foreign interference and asking for states to be rigged in his favor in the 2020 election.
Claims of "lawfare" is the latest incarnation of Republican psychological projection, ie they have zero evidence Democrats are actually engaged in it while ignoring the ample evidence of Trump's explicit attempts to use it, as in audio and video recordings of him asking a foreign leader and his AG to investigate his political rivals.
Is "lawfare" some new buzzword invented by the right wing derposhere?
Those guys are prolific. I'll give them that much.
Dems are better at hiding it? The drummed up election interference case is full on lawfare.
If that was the case, can you explain to my why the states that had no law against certifying false electors didn’t charge, and the states that did have such a law did charge? Or why people are pleading guilty to charges in the Georgia case related to RICO?
Desperate messaging, her campaign is scrambling. Walz is a stolen valor dud and they picked a fight golden families. Americans lived 4 years under Trump then 4 years under Harris, she's not offering anything new And is rapidly losing traction.
My favorite string of youtube comments today--watching some rightwing video
the left worships the taliban&hamas!
women ruined everything
we need sharia law
--It boggles the mind lol
Desperate messaging, her campaign is scrambling. Walz is a stolen valor dud and they picked a fight golden families. Americans lived 4 years under Trump then 4 years under Harris, she's not offering anything new And is rapidly losing traction.
Desperate messaging is when you quote what Trump says and make it into an effective attack ad.
Trump is low energy and caught up in various dynamics which should each cost him the election, but it's just a toss up yet.
This is how much Harris is worth, running at a coin flip against a convicted felon who is almost 80y old and has a hard time being coherent for more than 5minutes straight.
You know what’s funny .
Taking the side of maga .
America needs to revert back to the past to be great again .
Imagine a hardcore Republican from the 60s early 70s and you tell him , you know , our Republican nominee and party doing so great , we might actually lose the presidency to a black woman….
U say it Harris that sucks but from the point of view of that old Republican , it’s probably trump that is incredibly bad for not crushing Harris with great republicans values you claim maga represent ….
Given that afaik they are all elective, all of them.
Not saying they have no legal basis to attack his companies to be clear. Some attacks are weaker than others but laws are written on purpose to give enormous latitude to government.
Anti discrimination laws as written/interpreted are impossible to follow in the tech world for example, statistical discrimination against women/minorities is unavoidable basically.
Which brings us to the fact that you basically use them only against your enemies (or at least that's what is expected).
The Google antitrust case had strong bipartisan support. Started by the Trump DOJ and a bunch of red state attorneys general, continued/expanded by Biden DOJ.
Yes which is not what tech billionaires expected.
They expected Trump to be after them, they used all their (very powerful) tools to make him lose in 2020, and they expected Biden to quietly drop or mismanage cases against them.
When that didn't happen you started seeing the pivot and the balancing act
Is "lawfare" some new buzzword invented by the right wing derposhere?
Those guys are prolific. I'll give them that much.
Let me Google it for you
ABC/Ipsos, excluding the 20% of people who said they're less than a 50/50 chance to vote:
49% Harris
45% Trump
2% West
1% Stein
1% Oliver
Of registered voters:
50% Harris
45% Trump
1% West, Stein, and Oliver each
Many people insisted on how important PA was, but i didn't realize it was THIS important (i read stuff like 65% previously)
Is everyone still convinced passing over Shapiro was the smart thing to do?
You know what’s funny .
Taking the side of maga .
America needs to revert back to the past to be great again .
Imagine a hardcore Republican from the 60s early 70s and you tell him , you know , our Republican nominee and party doing so great , we might actually lose the presidency to a black woman….
U say it Harris that sucks but from the point of view of that old Republican , it’s probably trump that is incredibly bad for n
Trump is doing well because he has a good following on social media which he has used to solidify the GOP political apparatus behind him. With those two in your pocket, you get the US conservative media onboard as well.
So we get people onto to this board to tell us that Trump has good policies, that Trump did not say what he said, that Trump did not do what he did and why his lack of character is overlooked.
In reality Trump is a joke of a candidate. He isn't competent enough to hold an opinion on policy, by any traditional norms he is deeply immoral, he lacks integrity, he is a fraud, a criminal, a rapist, he assumes no responsibility and he lies reflexively. He disdains half of the US population and he has on several occasions shown a disregard for democracy and the republic that borders on fascism.
Conservatives that are still holding their nose and standing behind him should dump him and send a clear message to both the conservative movement and the GOP: Find a better candidate next time. This beats abandoning your principles.
Yes so not being super favourite against such a bad candidate, is an indictment for the democratic party.
It is nine weeks out from election day. Here are the seven toss up states in gray. Depending on where you draw the line for margin of error to call a state toss up, I think you could give Kamala Harris the state of Wisconsin.
I see. So none of these actions would have been taken against companies that were controlled by someone friendlier to Democrats? That's really what you believe?
Your first example is especially amazing, seeing as it was an action initiated by Musk for the purpose of challenging the constitutionality of the structure of the NLRB.
I see. So none of these actions would have been taken against companies that were controlled by someone friendlier to Democrats? That's really what you believe?
Your first example is especially amazing, seeing as it was an action initiated by Musk for the purpose of challenging the constitutionality of the structure of the NLRB.
A few could, you still 1) need to keep even allies in check 2) need not to give the game away too much 3) big parties aren't monoliths so portions of them could behave erratically (wrt what is optimal for the party itself)
But it's too much in too short a span of time and the real firepower started being used after Musk moved to the right more explicitly
