Vice-President Kamala Harris

Vice-President Kamala Harris

Probably requires her own thread at this moment, lock/delete etc if someone else wins the nom

21 July 2024 at 09:25 PM
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Yeah. Trump proposed the plan (well he stole it from “socialist” dems but nonetheless) but didn’t get it done. Biden and Harris did. You mad?


by PointlessWords P

They are all god

The father , the son and the Holy Ghost

The Catholics believe only the pope and priests speak to god.

lol Catholics. They also believe they eat the body of Christ and drink his blood. Disgusting

Zombies cult huh .


by checkraisdraw P

Yeah. Trump proposed the plan (well he stole it from “socialist” dems but nonetheless) but didn’t get it done. Biden and Harris did. You mad?

At least trump prove he isn’t a socialist I supposed ?
It’s so bad to help people with socialism anyway right ?
Thx trump/maga for not helping peoples, socialism is evil ….


by MSchu18 P

Be careful how you use the term Communist... because what is often labeled as 'Communist', under a strict definition, is in actuality nothing more than 'Socialism'.

Which of the two is worse... I leave that up to each individual to decide. A stifling forced economic slavery with the illusion of freedom, or a forced servitude to a single master with no class between the servant and the master.

It's astounding how little the Right knows or understands about socialism/communism while being so willing to make it's adoption in any part of the world a civilizational struggle to the death.

Hitler hated socialism, probably even more than he hated Jews although he often conflated the two. Please don't comment about how the Nazis were socialist. Doing that will only identify you as buffoon.

It's not the authoritative aspect of communism that the Right instinctively hates. I mean they love corporations which are completely totalitarian. They love strong leadership and strict hierarchy. So when they bleat about communism being authoritarian I don't think for a second that that is their real beef. So what is it? Say we let workers vote on working conditions and compensation and even the direction of a company. What evil do you think will spring from this?


The money might get split up too fairly. And you have what amounts to partners in workers instead of underlings. Apparently that's Satanic.


by wet work P

The money might get split up too fairly. And you have what amounts to partners in workers instead of underlings. Apparently that's Satanic.

Theoretically communism working strictly as a series of COMPETING CO-OPS wouldn't be disastrous.

Still extremely limiting because of no capital markets, which huge problems wrt savings and whatnot.

But what you guy want isn't apple employees getting 1m/year each and the office cleaning company employees getting 20k/year each is it?

You want people who objectively contribute a ton more than others (by being part of far more efficient and value generating co-ops) to live identical lives to the less contributing people in society and that is disastrous for productivity, people do the minimum indispensable, production collapses.

Not to mention the absolute annihilation of risk taking, if you don't gain massively more by risking, you never risk anything


Dude, we're flying around in space on a rock for no reason at all. What game are we trying to win?


by wet work P

Dude, we're flying around in space on a rock for no reason at all. What game are we trying to win?

An interesting one could be to reach other planets and live there as well, which isn't so far fetched (on a long enough time scale).

Then get AGI (which shouldn't take more than a few centuries at most) and move from there.

After full AGI immortality in some practical form could be achievable and we can start conquering the entire universe barring aliens existing and exterminating us before we grow too powerful.

After that we are in Asimov "the last question" territory which gets pseudo religious (or at least actually fanta-scientific), but if we actually manage to reverse entropy infinite multiverses could become accessible and the game is even more interesting.

Basically the game is to exist and grow in power over matter energy space and time enough that we control the essence of everything that exists and can exist in the totality of the possible universes.


I mean building toward an eventual/potential alien attack is a viable reason for some stuff. But from that standpoint it also makes a hell of a lot more sense for the whole world to be working together instead of as fractured teams. The same basic thinking would apply for getting to another planet imo. Teaming up makes way more sense.

The current set-up looks more like it would play out as a very small sliver bails to the new planet once this one's used up and cuts everyone else loose.


It's funny that no one is talking about Kamalas drinking problem. She may not have access to alcohol every time she meets with a leader or gets on the worlds stage. She is very insecure based on how she talks and how she nervously laughs so much.


by mongidig P

It's funny that no one is talking about Kamalas drinking problem. She may not have access to alcohol every time she meets with a leader or gets on the worlds stage. She is very insecure based on how she talks and how she nervously laughs so much.

I continue to be amazed that you have the brainpower to remember to breathe.


by mongidig P

It's funny that no one is talking about Kamalas drinking problem. She may not have access to alcohol every time she meets with a leader or gets on the worlds stage. She is very insecure based on how she talks and how she nervously laughs so much.

If alcoholism was good enough for Ulysses S Grant, it's good enough for good ol 47.


by wet work P

I mean building toward an eventual/potential alien attack is a viable reason for some stuff. [...]

I think we know how it would go down.

* 25% would deny that there were aliens and insist it was a government conspiracy to raise taxes.
* 5% would deny that the aliens were plotting our demise and insist that they were peaceful
* 5% would be various religious and spiritual nutjobs that would welcome our doom
* 5% would be busy figuring out ways to use the alien invasion to get richer or defraud people
* 15% would not care either way.
* 5% would be trying to use the alien invasion as cover for their own wars and geographical conquests.
* 5% would be spamming enough of the above talking points to make them seem like 90% of the population.
* The remainder would really want to do something about the problem, but their lack of majority means even small efforts is an uphill battle against political opposition, propaganda, bot networks, bureaucracy and old distrust.

Meanwhile, media and social media would focus less on the alien invasion and more on covering the disagreements regarding the alien invasion. Controversial outlier views would be getting the majority of the airtime. All this combined would make it seem like the rational and reasonable response is a small minority view that nobody needs care about.

As for the aliens themselves they would (to paraphrase an old comic) be deeply impressed by how primitive apes made nuclear weapons and slightly bemused by the fact that we point them at each-other.


^^Nice.


by PointlessWords P

They also believe they eat the body of Christ and drink his blood.

Thats communist communion ftr


by mongidig P

It's funny that no one is talking about Kamalas drinking problem.

Probably because it's an obvious lie.


by Luciom P

You want people who objectively contribute a ton more than others (by being part of far more efficient and value generating co-ops) to live identical lives to the less contributing people in society and that is disastrous for productivity, people do the minimum indispensable, production collapses.

Not to mention the absolute annihilation of risk taking, if you don't gain massively more by risking, you never risk anything

Nobody wants totally flat compensation which everyone regards as totally unrealistic. If workers voted on compensation their recognition of the relative contributions of employees would be reflected and they are going to be far more reasonable than some psycho CEO trying to manipulate the institution towards their ends. There would likely be no billionaires.

And there shouldn't be billionaires. No human is worth that much more than others. Nobody defies the bell curve in reality. There is a spectrum of human talent which conforms to some distribution, just like any other real world human attribute. A billionaire is like a 1000 ft. tall human being, in other words not a human, in other words not possible on any meritocratic basis.


by mongidig P

It's funny that no one is talking about Kamalas drinking problem. She may not have access to alcohol every time she meets with a leader or gets on the worlds stage. She is very insecure based on how she talks and how she nervously laughs so much.

Great. She’s normal. You’d be a psycho not to be insecure


by Trolly McTrollson P

Probably because it's an obvious lie.


Regardless being true or not .
A legal drinking problem is probably more important then a sexual harasser , convict frauder in their mind .


by Trolly McTrollson P

Probably because it's an obvious lie.

Have you watched her speak?


by PointlessWords P

Great. She’s normal. You’d be a psycho not to be insecure

That's not the quality I am looking for in a world leader.


by mongidig P

That's not the quality I am looking for in a world leader.

Every time I read one of your posts I find myself wanting to campaign against universal suffrage.


by mongidig P

That's not the quality I am looking for in a world leader.

Lying rapey grifting moronic conmen are so much better world leaders.


by biggerboat P

Lying rapey grifting moronic conmen are so much better world leaders.

Nobody's perfect!


i mean, i think in all fairness it wasn't rape in the traditional sense, only in the legal sense

it was in a very public place, she just needs to scream once and it's over, she also waited how long to decide to press charges?


i'm not saying what he did was ok, but it definitely reads like he made an aggressive move and she wasn't exactly into it but just went along with it and later had regrets

mind you, i think trump is an absolute amoral scumbag, but his wealth still gave him ample dating options, the woman in question is basically the inspiration for carrie bradshaw, and only disclosed it 14 years after the fact and did so through a book of hers, so she obviously had a financial incentive (and sure enough including that spiked sales dramatically)

do i believe that they had sex in the changing room? yes
do i believe that it was 100% based on his forceful initiation? yes
do i beleive she was she not into it and told 2 friends about it? yes

could she have perhaps resisted or at least screamed/yelled? yes
why didn't she? i think she was kind of into it, just didn't want it to go down the way it did - why else would they migrate from looking at handbags to shopping for lingerie and then when she goes into the changing room to try the lingerie on for him she's ok with him following?

at worst, i think it was just a very unpleasant encounter that was semi-consensual in that it didn't go the way she'd imagined despite that she began the encounter expecting some form of sexual activity - perhaps she just thought it'd be a voyeuristic thing only

and then 14 years later, he's the focus of the world, someone she despises, and just coincidentally she's writing a book and including some passages on that would do wonders for both sales and taking down her enemy

and again, i can't emphasize this enough, he was never charged nor convicted of rape, what she won was a defamation lawsuit

trump is still a scumbag and pos, there's so many things that are valid criticisms, so it just doesn't make any sense to undermine your own credibility when you firmly assert he's a rapist


frankly, we all know that men who are aggressive and push for things will get them whereas the passive man does not, this is 10x more true in random hookups and one night stands

in fact, many women expect that of men, to the point where they will not engage with men who are not forceful, many take the minnesotan approach of only accepting on the 3rd offer

so i think many men who have had many casual dating partners are inevitably going to have situations in their past where they misread the situation a bit and were a bit more proactive and forceful than their partner would have desired - ie i think most men will have situations where they could be accused for sexual misconduct

Jian Ghomeshi is a classic example

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jian_Ghome...

dude was a committed feminist, in fact, that was central to his rise to fame as a media personality in canada

in 2014 he got me too'd where an ex girlfriend accused him of non-consensual rough sex

he gets fired

in 2015 he is acquitted

why is he acquitted?

because during court they showed text messages from the girls to him that read like "man you really f'd me up last night, but i can't wait to go at it again" coupled with the fact that they also continued dating for months afterwards


same thing with trevor bauer, who got dropped by the MLB and had his career ended, yet was later acquitted when during trial they found texts from the defendant both stating to Trevor how much she was into the rough sex they were having as well as texts to her friends talking about how much money she was going to shake Trevor down for - it's only because Trevor refused her blackmail efforts that she went forward to the press with the fake allegations

in both bauer and ghomeshi, everything did indeed actually happen, it was only later that the consenting women either looked back at the relationship with a new perspective or decided they were going to grind that for all the money it was worth, i can't possibly imagine that it would be any different for a noted gossip columnist finding herself aged out of being relevant and having a rough and dirty sexual encounter with a man running for president who's politics she despised in her back pocket


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