[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff
KSM got a plea deal. The guy who supposedly masterminded the 9/11 attacks is not getting the death penalty.
If you still think that AQ did 9/11 you should be in adult day care.
Well there you have it. Forget that you guys have to believe in magic for your story to make sense. Too many people had to be involved.
how many people were involved in the CIA killing JFK?
lb, recently there were some people posting in another thread that you don't think sandy hook was real
is that true? if so, can you give a tl;dr?
Oh, also, Luckbox, this just came up in my Quora feed after my recent searches in response to your question.
According to the Boston Herald, Logan did not have security cameras in the boarding area. See the article "Logan Lacks Video Cameras" Boston Herald 9/29/01 by Doug Hanchett and Robin Washington.
I'm sure you can locate the article if you so desire.
The scary thing about your post is there is a sizable faction of these nutters that believe the planes were entirely faked. Seriously. They are literally called "no-planers."
If the government told you that there were no planes you would be in here defending that conspiracy theory instead of the one you are currently trying, but failing miserably, to defend.
If the government told you that there were no planes you would be in here defending that conspiracy theory instead of the one you are currently trying, but failing miserably, to defend.
No.
You're the only one here who has a preoccupation with "the government". The rest of us are just looking at the available evidence. Obviously the events were investigated and evidence collated and presented by "the government", because that is what investigative government agencies do.
lb, recently there were some people posting in another thread that you don't think sandy hook was real
is that true? if so, can you give a tl;dr?
No trauma helicopters called, ambulances not allowed too close to the school, no bodies taken any hospital and enough other fishy stuff you could write a book on.
Once you dig deeper you learn that the school was actually closed in 2009 or 2010.
What cracks me up the best about controlled demolition is the dozens(hundreds?) of people that had to know about it and somehow, without anyone noticing, prepare three giant ****ing buildings for demolition. It takes weeks to prepare a completely empty building 1/10th the size for demolition. I actually LOL to myself thinking about secret night missions dressed as the cleaning crew, opening up walls to expose the steel beams, attaching th
I do see how one could think this is a logical objection to the demolition theory. However, it has a lot of problems I can address.
We don't know the mechanism of demolition. We suspect thermite was used, but we don't know how exactly. If a novel or rare method of demolition was employed we wouldn't know how many people would have been required or how much preparation. AE911Truth has been trying for years to obtain the maintenance records of the buildings for the time preceding the attacks. That information has never been fully released last I checked some years ago.
But here is a point which applies here that I hope educates you in trying to figure out how things work. You can know something but, in many cases, it doesn't matter that you know something only that you have the proof. Ed Snowden risked his neck to deliver the proof he had of the extent of unlawful government surveillance of Americans. He didn't just go to Russia and start talking to reporters about stuff he knew. If fact other people before Snowden had opened their mouth and talked. No one cared because they didn't have the goods. If the sheeple here were talking to someone who claimed to be someone who rigged the towers and building 7, they might have all kinds of credentials establishing their opportunity, motive, and capabilities but unless they had the actual proof they would be jeered by these establishment attack dogs. So not only would a conspirator, someone willing to commit crimes resulting the deaths of thousands of people, have to turn into a saint and risk their ass to tell the truth, but they needed to have sprouted this conscience while in the act of committing their crime.
That's just no how people behave. You see a guy in a suit going to a job. I see a dolphin jumping up to get its fish reward. Consider motivation just a little please. There are very few heroes in this world and they don't come from the ranks of the vilest criminals who would perpetrate the 911 attacks.
Also, it's been 23 years and not one person involved in this super secret planning has spoken in any capacity about this on or off the record? Really?
How many people knew the extent of the blatantly unconstitutional surveillance of the American people and kept their little mouths shut so they could keep getting a paycheck and not piss off powerful and corrupt people? tens of thousands of people at least.
And how would we know if they did or didn't? The corporate press has never pushed back against any of the warmongers' shenanigans involving 9/11 or any war for that matter. Do you see TV specials about what in the ever living **** happened to all that material inside the building or where all that molten metal came from? This are just simple observations which have gone unexplained. Do you think the media is going to give credence to the idea that what they did was irresponsible and lead to the deaths of a million people and bottomless pits of money being wasted? Consider narratives, how they are used and are they ever deprecated for any reason?
No trauma helicopters called, ambulances not allowed too close to the school, no bodies taken any hospital and enough other fishy stuff you could write a book on.
Once you dig deeper you learn that the school was actually closed in 2009 or 2010.
thanks for answering, i almost never agree with your takes, but always appreciate that you'll gladly discuss them in detail
No.
You're the only one here who has a preoccupation with "the government". The rest of us are just looking at the available evidence. Obviously the events were investigated and evidence collated and presented by "the government", because that is what investigative government agencies do.
You strolled into this thread saying you didn't know anything about the subject. And you didn't and you don't. But that didn't, and doesn't stop you from having strong opinions about the topic. There is no reason to think you wouldn't believe anything the government and media tell you.
None of you have looked at any evidence (with the possible exception of Gogorian but he can barely read). Or do you mean, for example, the wikipedia article you dug up where some loan officer assistant in South Florida was like "Yeah I saw Atta AND he was talking about the twin towers, asking me about securrty n erthang." I supposed you could call that evidence of Atta committing the attacks if you want to be hyper literal, but it doesn't evince, as you seemed to suggest, that he was AQ.
Your Wikipedia link says it all. You have this very strong belief that the evidence is all out there somewhere in safekeeping by the benevolent masters of mankind. You really think there is some paper written by government experts which explains how the towers fell. But these things only exist in your mind as mythology. They aren't real at all. The NIST paper, whatever standard of peer review you want to apply to it, doesn't attempt to give any insight into how the collapse happened, the very part of the story where demolitions, were they used, would be relevant.
Do you think the 911 Commission Report has all the evidence? Here is the report on the funding of the attacks:
To date, the U.S. government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately the question is of little practical significance.
It must be hard for you to look at "the available evidence" when it doesn't exist.
Dunces, were you hyperventilating while writing all that? You really should cut back on the meth, broseph, you are far too much entertainment value to check out early.
Or do you mean, for example, the wikipedia article you dug up where some loan officer assistant in South Florida was like "Yeah I saw Atta AND he was talking about the twin towers, asking me about securrty n erthang." I supposed you could call that evidence of Atta committing the attacks if you want to be hyper literal, but it doesn't evince, as you seemed to suggest, that he was AQ.
Dunces, why do you brazenly lie and say that's there was no evidence in the Wikipedia article about Atta being AQ or being on the planes when you clearly read it? Is it because you can't read? Or did your parents not tell you that lying was bad when you were growing up? Or did you grow up in the streets, like a stray cat?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_At...
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None of you have looked at any evidence (with the possible exception of Gogorian but he can barely read).
He seems to be able to read well enough to have found that carboard box presentation, which is by far and away the best thing to emerge from this thread so far, and which you keep ignoring whenever I mention it btw. That **** is gonna keep me laughing all winter.
He seems to be able to read well enough to have found that carboard box presentation, which is by far and away the best thing to emerge from this thread so far, and which you keep ignoring whenever I mention it btw. That **** is gonna keep me laughing all winter.
I'm almost certain you quoted that just because you knew I would see it. Thank you for that hahahaha 😀
Oh and:
I'm almost certain you quoted that just because you knew I would see it. Thank you for that hahahaha 😀
Oh and:
Not sure if you saw my theory, but I think this guy is Deuces IRL. He doesn't have any evidence that it isn't, so I'm just gonna assume it is. Nice disguise with the glasses there Deuces, almost threw me off the scent.
I don't recall ever seeing any security footage of any alleged hijackers at any airports. Are you aware of some?
I do see how one could think this is a logical objection to the demolition theory. However, it has a lot of problems I can address.
We don't know the mechanism of demolition. We suspect thermite was used, but we don't know how exactly. If a novel or rare method of demolition was employed we wouldn't know how many people would have been required or how much preparation. AE911Truth has been trying for years to obtain the maintenance records of
Seems like whatever was used was far more efficient and took less preparation than traditional methods. You know traditional controlled demolition involves a ton of work, guess the industry has changed to whatever was used on 9/11 as it's so good. lol
Up until 2001, the tallest building that was brought down by controlled demolition was 439 feet tall and significantly different than the twin towers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._L._Huds.... You think they invented some new method of demolition and used it on two very unique buildings in design and size and thought that was the best plan? Where is your common sense?
Thermite? Five seconds of googling tells me thermite is terrible for demolition. I guess I don't understand because I had two years of college physics to overwrite my high school physics knowledge. As a side note, I messed around with making thermite in college with mixed results. It's super cool when you actually get it ignited but it didn't do what I wanted, which for my goals at the time a fantastic result.
...Word salad about Snowden and surveillance...
How many people knew the extent of the blatantly unconstitutional surveillance of the American people and kept their little mouths shut so they could keep getting a paycheck and not piss off powerful and corrupt people? tens of thousands of people at least.
A bit different? Those people probably believed they were helping USA#1. Wiring three WTC buildings for demolition knowing you're going to kill a bunch of people is a little different, don't you think?
And how would we know if they did or didn't? The corporate press has never pushed back against any of the warmongers' shenanigans involving 9/11 or any war for that matter. Do you see TV specials about what in the ever living **** happened to all that material inside the building or where all that molten metal came from? This are just simple observations which have gone unexplained. Do you think the media is going to give credence to the id
The corporate press sucks, so what?
