Gun control
I think that the Gun control thread got lost when the old politics thread got moved.
1 The rest of the world looks at the US policy with slack jawed astonishment.
2. “Guns don’t kill people , people do” is identical to “Nuclear weapons don’t kill people, people do”
3. Using the idea that carrying guns can prevent the government oppressing you seems to ignore the fact that the US government controls the most effective killing machine in history
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Sigh
No politicising so close to the election
Apparently there was a phone call this morning warning that there would be a shooting at that specific school.
Now is not the right time for that discussion. Allow the families to grieve
You guys obviously are forgetting about good guys with guns. This never would have happened if all the faculty and all the students had been carrying sidearms.
Question: Among all these school shooters, how many of them at the time are doing serious physical / mental training? Whether it’s a sport, martial arts, or weightlifting. I think it’s safe to assume it’s zero.
If people are serious about solving the school shootings problem, then the following rule needs to be considered: if you are being bullied and feel powerless + vengeful as a result, then you are not allowed to simply ruminate in it. Reading The Great Gatsby or learning algebra is no longer meaningful for this young male. Mandatory physical + mental training for 1-2 hours per day during school hours. Use the Special Ed teachers / sports coaches for this, as they are not accomplishing much currently.
This solution requires no pleading over gun control.
We should get you to write the text book for these training courses, that will solve the problem - everyone taking them will just shoot themselves.
This is going to be tough to implement. If the kid doesn't want to run, or do pullups, or learn judo, or lift weights, what exactly are you going to do?
great gatsby is required reading in most schools
algebra is a required subject in all schools
guess you can lay that theory to rest
I think he's saying it's not enough. I guess they need individuation or whatever that word he loves is.
Negotiate, bargain, retrace until you find some point of connection / buy in. Then inch forward.
Yes! Let there be an advocate for the self with a seat at the table in the mind of everyone! That’s the mission.
or maybe don't make it so damn easy for them to get a high powered weapon
Everyone agrees a minor shouldn’t have easy access to high powered weapons. Yet..
Easily the stupidest post I have ever read.
‘The problem is bullying! Force the bullied to lift bro so they don’t get bullied’
‘What if they don’t want to lift bro?’
‘Bully them into it’
I’m assuming there’s a partisan reason someone can think a single word of this is logical
This solution requires no pleading over gun control.
Well there it is
... they are unwilling to do anything about it?
Is there precedent being set in other shootings of holding the parents criminally liable for kids getting access to their guns? That seems like pretty low hanging fruit as a first step to reduce this stuff.
Pretty sure Ethan crumbley’s parents both got sentenced to prison but their **** was ****ing egregious
When one of these school shooters turns out to be someone who is doing consistent, serious training, then get back to me.
Where is PW when we need him.
Government subsidized prostitution ftw
Developing certain forms of self mastery should not be optional — we already agree with this in certain ways, like literacy — but other forms of self mastery must become mandatory. It should be seen as part of a social contract.
lol wtf are you babbling about?. lol self mastery. LOL "REQUIRED" SELF MASTERY.
wtf does that even mean?
the gun conversation is a non-starter until both sides stipulate to the simple *fact* that guns will never be banned in general in the united states.
without that, the conversation goes nowhere.
Heathen, individuate yourself.