ex-President Trump

ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Luciom P

She flipped (in words) on fracking because she can't be president without winning Pennsylvania but there is no reason to believe her on that tbh, given her long story of hatred on fracking, and you know that.

Federal independence as a "good thing" is a technocratic neolib preference, not a rightwing one.

As for middle class tax cuts what's the proposal by Harris?


She was part of the most energy independent admin.

The fed bro. Not federal independence. Central banking.

I’ll have to look up the specifics for you but in principle that’s in line with right wing ideals right?


by rickroll P

i think it'd be nice if we were like sparta and just left our babies in the woods and if they were still alive the next day they earned it

That’s a good idea to be allowed in state where abortion is illegal .


by checkraisdraw P

She was part of the most energy independent admin.

The fed bro. Not federal independence. Central banking.

I’ll have to look up the specifics for you but in principle that’s in line with right wing ideals right?

Pretty much. The Constitution gives it to Congress and this is where they've settled for the time being. The options are basically go back to what is essentially:

Mitch vs Pelosi lol
fully privatized seems somewhat crazy
or some other version of the hybrid model which is what we have now.


by squid face P

I have an exceptionally low IQ and I am going to act outraged that the unrealized capital gains tax will never have any impact on me whatsoever.

Are you also upset that certain capital gains aren’t taxed even after they are realized? What about depreciation being taken on appreciating real estate holdings?


by Luciom P

She flipped (in words) on fracking because she can't be president without winning Pennsylvania but there is no reason to believe her on that tbh, given her long story of hatred on fracking, and you know that.

Federal independence as a "good thing" is a technocratic neolib preference, not a rightwing one.

As for middle class tax cuts what's the proposal by Harris?

Her hatred of fracking was probably related to the related earthquakes, potential ruining of groundwater, and the fact that she was trying to run left of the other candidates in 2020. She does need PA more than anything and that is likely a big part of it. But there also is the possibility that she is paying attention to the current benefits of fracking. The US under Biden has become the largest producer of natural gas and oil in the world (higher than any country in history). One of the benefits of fracking is that the oil and gas produced has eliminated a lot of coal power plants which has helped reduce CO2 emissions in the US. In the long term it is unlikely that fracking will be needed, and when gas prices dropped during Covid fracking was temporarily abandoned anyway. My guess is that Kamala has actually changed her mind about fracking. You can call it flip flopping but it may just be that she realizes that she was wrong in her approach and that moving forward it will take time to achieve 100% clean power in the US and fracking will help the US stay energy independent and move away from coal.

Here is an article on Kamala's past tax ...

The following relate to Kamala tax cuts/benefits for lower and middle class:

"Creating a $3,000 refundable tax credit ($6,000 for married couples filing jointly) (the LIFT Act) for low- and middle-income taxpayers"

"Creating a tax credit for rent payments made by renters who earn less than $100,000 and spend over 30 percent of their income on rent and utilities"


by rickroll P

i think it'd be nice if we were like sparta and just left our babies in the woods and if they were still alive the next day they earned it

this is a definition of "viable" i can get behind.


CEASE & DESIST: I, together with many Attorneys and Legal Scholars, am watching the Sanctity of the 2024 Presidential Election very closely because I know, better than most, the rampant Cheating and Skullduggery that has taken place by the Democrats in the 2020 Presidential Election. It was a Disgrace to our Nation! Therefore, the 2024 Election, where Votes have just started being cast, will be under the closest professional scrutiny and, WHEN I WIN, those people that CHEATED will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the Law, which will include long term prison sentences so that this Depravity of Justice does not happen again. We cannot let our Country further devolve into a Third World Nation, AND WE WON’T! Please beware that this legal exposure extends to Lawyers, Political Operatives, Donors, Illegal Voters, & Corrupt Election Officials. Those involved in unscrupulous behavior will be sought out, caught, and prosecuted at levels, unfortunately, never seen before in our Country.


Hilary said deplorables once, so I can't tell the difference between Trump and democrats.


by Slighted P

CEASE & DESIST: I, together with many Attorneys and Legal Scholars, am watching the Sanctity of the 2024 Presidential Election very closely because I know, better than most, the rampant Cheating and Skullduggery that has taken place by the Democrats in the 2020 Presidential Election. It was a Disgrace to our Nation! Therefore, the 2024 Election, where Votes have just started being cast, will be under the closest professional scrutiny and, W

Do you also repost his other lies, like saying it's legal to kill babies after birth in some states? And kids can go to school and have surgery there and come home a different gender? Or is the stolen election lie just your favorite of his lies?


by Gorgonian P

Do you also repost his other lies, like saying it's legal to kill babies after birth in some states? And kids can go to school and have surgery there and come home a different gender? Or is the stolen election lie just your favorite of his lies?

i started just reposting his stuff verbatim here because everyone was saying that joe biden was somehow the candidate that wasn't all there mentally. and i think that's mostly because people outside of maga aren't exposed to trumps senility since the media tends to whitewash his statements and clean them up so he doesn't look as cognitively declined as he actually is.


Everyone is saying that Trump's word salad is a sign of cognitive decline, but is it really worse than his word salad 8 years ago? He barely made any sense most of the time even then.


by d2_e4 P

Everyone is saying that Trump's word salad is a sign of cognitive decline, but is it really worse than his word salad 8 years ago? He barely made any sense most of the time even then.

i'm willing to consider the fact that i'm memory holing, but i feel like he stayed on message much better in 2015/2016 and we had less sharks getting electrocuted by boat batteries complete nonsense. but maybe that's just me trying to be considerate of the people that voted for him and thinking they can't all be complete idiots 3 times in a row.


by Slighted P

i'm willing to consider the fact that i'm memory holing, but i feel like he stayed on message much better in 2015/2016 and we had less sharks getting electrocuted by boat batteries complete nonsense. but maybe that's just me trying to be considerate of the people that voted for him and thinking they can't all be complete idiots 3 times in a row.

You don't remember this gem?

[quote= Trump - 2016]
"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
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by Slighted P

CEASE & DESIST: I, together with many Attorneys and Legal Scholars, am watching the Sanctity of the 2024 Presidential Election very closely because I know, better than most, the rampant Cheating and Skullduggery that has taken place by the Democrats in the 2020 Presidential Election. It was a Disgrace to our Nation! Therefore, the 2024 Election, where Votes have just started being cast, will be under the closest professional scrutiny and, W

He's going after the donors and political operatives?

This tweet is deranged. How can anyone vote for this clown?


Racism. Haitians are stealing and cooking dogs in Ohio.


by Hired Goons2 P

Racism. Haitians are stealing and cooking dogs in Ohio.

They say they eat cats on twitter


Taking in RFK Jr. as Vice Vice President and then pivoting to migrant caravans are eating your pets is brilliant, did not see this coming. Is this supposed to be a variation of "both sides enjoy bbq dogs"?


there is some confirmed american citizen in a photo with a cat. and that sparked this whole haitians eat cats thing that has been tweeted by US senators and vice presidential candidates alike. meanwhile the police department of the town where this is allegedly happening is just like-- wtf? that's not happening.

americans are not prepared for the post truth world.


by Slighted P

there is some confirmed american citizen in a photo with a cat. and that sparked this whole haitians eat cats thing that has been tweeted by US senators and vice presidential candidates alike. meanwhile the police department of the town where this is allegedly happening is just like-- wtf? that's not happening.

americans are not prepared for the post truth world.

Ye this is bad, like the time the democratic controlled media for a week went on with the completely made up claim that the president told people to inject bleach to cure covid, or that BLM riots were mostly peaceful


by Slighted P

there is some confirmed american citizen in a photo with a cat. and that sparked this whole haitians eat cats thing that has been tweeted by US senators and vice presidential candidates alike. meanwhile the police department of the town where this is allegedly happening is just like-- wtf? that's not happening.

americans are not prepared for the post truth world.


Has there been a migrant caravan scare? This seems to be the popular season for them to pop up...


by Luciom P

Ye this is bad, like the time the democratic controlled media for a week went on with the completely made up claim that the president told people to inject bleach to cure covid, or that BLM riots were mostly peaceful

pretty sure trumps team is still looking into the bleach thing. also UV lights.


"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

i mean he's very literally talking about injecting "disinfectant." if that's the hill you want to die on, fine i guess. do you. but there are surely better hills.


by Luciom P

Ye this is bad, like the time the democratic controlled media for a week went on with the completely made up claim that the president told people to inject bleach to cure covid, or that BLM riots were mostly peaceful

Oh noes, the radical leftist media accurately reported some dumb**** thing the dumb**** Republican president said, what unimaginable bias.


by d2_e4 P

Oh noes, the radical leftist media accurately reported some dumb**** thing the dumb**** Republican president said, what unimaginable bias.

Except that no, they totally made up it


totally


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