ex-President Trump

ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Slighted P

pretty sure trumps team is still looking into the bleach thing. also UV lights.


i mean he's very literally talking about injecting "disinfectant." if that's the hill you want to die on, fine i guess. do you. but there are surely better hills.

"Maybe doctors will find a way to quickly fix COVID by injecting stuff that works in the lungs" -> go self inject bleach.

Just no. Totally made up narrative
The hill is your side is a constant source of major "postfact" narratives since many years ago, incessantly, with a dominating barrage of coverage given your side controls most of the media, people who Stan for your party systematically, organically, lie and distort everything for political gain, so you don't get to complain if the right does the same.

You started it, you do it more because you have more coverage, you do it all the time about everything.

Yesterday dick Cheney became a wise man whose opinion people should follow jfc


by King_of_NYC P

totally

Completely, like the "bloodbath" thing, and the " fine people on both sides" thing and the "mostly peaceful while buildings are burning behind" thing and the "COVID vaccines guarantee you can't get COVID ever again" thing and so on and on


I’ll just post it …

Broken YouTube Link

Totally made up. Totally.


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I wonder what she was thinking , didn’t seem very receptive ….
Seem she was waiting for the bell at the end of the class.


by d2_e4 P

Totally made up. Totally.

Yes, as per video as well.

I know you guys live in a parallel universe though.

Fact is I have no problem to claim the "Haitians eat cats" is fully unproven for now


I have a new word. Trumpsplaining.

Keep up the good work luci.


by Montrealcorp P


I wonder what she was thinking , didn’t seem very receptive ….
Seem she was waiting for the bell at the end of the class.


Funny, I did hear a bell end in the video


by Luciom P

"Maybe doctors will find a way to quickly fix COVID by injecting stuff that works in the lungs" -> go self inject bleach.

Just no. Totally made up narrative
The hill is your side is a constant source of major "postfact" narratives since many years ago, incessantly, with a dominating barrage of coverage given your side controls most of the media, people who Stan for your party systematically, organically, lie and distort everything for politic

you are the one changing the quote here though and attempting to sane-wash him. lol. at worst biden said "bleach" instead of disinfectant in his joke and the media ran with that. it's genericization at worst.

dick cheney and liz cheney gets zero points. it's fine that they endorse because the dems did zero compromise to get that endorsement. but it moves zero needles. all the normal republicans are already not voting trump and the rest are lost causes.


by Slighted P

you are the one changing the quote here though and attempting to sane-wash him. lol. at worst biden said "bleach" instead of disinfectant in his joke and the media ran with that. it's genericization at worst.

dick cheney and liz cheney gets zero points. it's fine that they endorse because the dems did zero compromise to get that endorsement. but it moves zero needles. all the normal republicans are already not voting trump and the res

Nice lapsus there.

If Cheney moves 0 needles why did democrat media cover that non-news which in theory should be bad for democrats (a true monster endorsed Harris) for like 36h non stop?


by Luciom P

Nice lapsus there

it's not. the coverage came from biden saying bleach. look it up.

eta- i should say that's how i remember it. trump said "disinfectant" and then Biden attacked trump saying Trump said inject bleach. and then the media ran with trump said bleach.


by Slighted P

it's not. the coverage came from biden saying bleach. look it up.

Biden said Trump had counseled to DRINK bleach. Even your own media rated it as mostly false

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/pol...

Trump had simply speculated that doctors should have tested injecting disinfectants, including bleach perhaps as it worked on surfaces.

There was never any suggestion for the public, it was about "maybe we have ways to find a rapid cure", your guys built up an entire TOTALLY MADE UP narrative on that.

Like Haitians eating cats


Trump was just stupidly talking out his ass like he always does. Not sure why anyone would spend any time trying to defend him.


by Luciom P

Biden said Trump had counseled to DRINK bleach. Even your own media rated it as mostly false

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/pol...

Trump had simply speculated that doctors should have tested injecting disinfectants, including bleach perhaps as it worked on surfaces.

There was never any suggestion for the public, it was about "maybe we h

So your issue is not that he didn't suggest injecting bleach, it's that he wasn't encouraging people to administer it themselves, but rather have a medical professional do it, right?


by biggerboat P

Trump was just stupidly talking out his ass like he always does. Not sure why anyone would spend any time trying to defend him.

I defend truth and having a common set of facts.

Democrat media completely invented a non existing episode , the narrative that trump had suggested people to self inject bleach if they had covid, which he never did.

Now republican media (mostly on social media) is making up the narrative (completely unsubstantiated) that Haitians are eating American household cats.

You either are disgusted by both, or don't even start trying to claim the cat eaters thing is bad


by d2_e4 P

So your issue is not that he didn't suggest injecting bleach, it's that he wasn't encouraging people to administer it themselves, but rather have a medical professional do it, right?

Have medical professionals test that as one of the many things people were trying at the time. They tried many unconventional and ex post kinda dumb things, like sanitizing beaches.

Trump idea wasn't more absurd than the masks with holes to play wind instruments which actually happened.


by Luciom P

Have medical professionals test that as one of the many things people were trying at the time. They tried many unconventional and ex post kinda dumb things, like sanitizing beaches.

Trump idea wasn't more absurd than the masks with holes to play wind instruments which actually happened.

First of all, injecting disinfectant is a pretty bad idea, much worse than masks with holes in. You should be able to see why.

Secondly, Trump stood in front of the whole country in live presser and suggested medical professionals should try injecting disinfectant. You don't think some of his dumb**** cult followers who think he's the second coming of Jesus might just think "wow, great idea, I should try that myself"?


by biggerboat P

Trump was just stupidly talking out his ass like he always does. Not sure why anyone would spend any time trying to defend him.

+1


Trump giving a quick rundown of his policies before the debate.



by d2_e4 P

First of all, injecting disinfectant is a pretty bad idea, much worse than masks with holes in. You should be able to see why.

Secondly, Trump stood in front of the whole country in live presser and suggested medical professionals should try injecting disinfectant. You don't think some of his dumb**** cult followers who think he's the second coming of Jesus might just think "wow, great idea, I should try that myself"?

Caveat emptor


I love a good "he didn't really say what he said" argument. Those are my absolute favorite. It's absolutely terrifying to watch people deny reality when it's literally on video right in front of them.


by Gorgonian P

I love a good "he didn't really say what he said" argument. Those are my absolute favorite. It's absolutely terrifying to watch people deny reality when it's literally on video right in front of them.

The video doesn't tell people to try to inject disinfectants into themselves. Which was the insane claim democrat media circulated (and some people still believe happened to this day).

But you live in a different reality where lockdowns worked so lol, I don't expect you to be able to watch a video and listen to the words.


by d2_e4 P

First of all, injecting disinfectant is a pretty bad idea, much worse than masks with holes in. You should be able to see why.

Secondly, Trump stood in front of the whole country in live presser and suggested medical professionals should try injecting disinfectant. You don't think some of his dumb**** cult followers who think he's the second coming of Jesus might just think "wow, great idea, I should try that myself"?

Some of them definitely did, so...yeah.


by Gorgonian P

Some of them definitely did, so...yeah.

Darwinism is a beautiful thing.


by d2_e4 P

Darwinism is a beautiful thing.

Would be hysterical if it wasn't so sad. Trump should have been held responsible for that, but instead we spend our energy splitting hairs about whether he said disinfectant instead of bleach (the difference is irrelevant, the disinfectant most people have is bleach) and whether he told people to do it or not (even suggesting it in a position of power like he is in is REPREHENSIBLE).

Clue for those arguing "he didn't say exactly those words" : IT DOESN'T MATTER AND NO ONE IS SAYING HE SAID PRECISELY THOSE WORDS.


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