Vice-President Kamala Harris

Vice-President Kamala Harris

Probably requires her own thread at this moment, lock/delete etc if someone else wins the nom

21 July 2024 at 09:25 PM
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by Montrealcorp P

What does that whataboutism have to do with anything under which president ?
Are you saying countries are defines by which U.S. president is in office ?
Is Canada changing because a different US president take office ?
Think a little further imo ….

If s really simple actually , Russia didn’t go to war when trump was president because trump was working in the interest of Putin more then democrats .
Ie: yes , bringing NATO down or weak

How was Trump working in the interest of Putin ? Yes when he met with him he was civil just like Obama. Bring Nato down Under Trump more countries stepped up their contributions. Trump gave Ukraine the military aid that Obama refused .

And yes Canada will change its course depending on who the President of the USA is.


by lozen P

How was Trump working in the interest of Putin ? Yes when he met with him he was civil just like Obama. Bring Nato down Under Trump more countries stepped up their contributions. Trump gave Ukraine the military aid that Obama refused .

And yes Canada will change its course depending on who the President of the USA is.

Trump bombed Syria (Putin ally), killed Suleiman (Iranian general, Putin ally)


by lozen P

How was Trump working in the interest of Putin ? Yes when he met with him he was civil just like Obama. Bring Nato down Under Trump more countries stepped up their contributions. Trump gave Ukraine the military aid that Obama refused .

And yes Canada will change its course depending on who the President of the USA is.

Been explain to you many times and been confirm many times by trump own advisors .
I won’t repeat and repost news again.
Live in the reality u want it’s fine .


Some revisionist history there lozen. Trump didn't "give" Ukraine anything. Congress approved it and trump threatened to stop it if he didn't get some dirt on a political opponent. I know it's been a while and we forget.


by biggerboat P

Some revisionist history there lozen. Trump didn't "give" Ukraine anything. Congress approved it and trump threatened to stop it if he didn't get some dirt on a political opponent. I know it's been a while and we forget.

Correct and he ended up approving it

How many weapons did Obama send to Ukraine? Blankets do not count

51 days and Kamala only one interview and zero press conferences


by lozen P

51 days and Kamala only one interview and zero press conferences

Cnbc finally giving the gears for this. And the interview was taped and edited down substantially, and she had her lap dog with her.



by housenuts P

Cnbc finally giving the gears for this. And the interview was taped and edited down substantially, and she had her lap dog with her.


Amazing the presidential candidate that never went through a primary or a debate and anointed as the replacement and refuses to sit down for an interview or answer questions and the Democratic cult thinks this is ok

sad


by lozen P

Correct and he ended up approving it

How many weapons did Obama send to Ukraine? Blankets do not count

51 days and Kamala only one interview and zero press conferences

His approval wasn't required though, Congressional appropriation was binding.


Trump is unsurprisingly back ahead of harris on predicitit and all else equal, she has no where to really go but down after their massive display on advertisement.

But the all else equal is trump so anything ia possible.


Nate Silver has trump has a small favorite in a near coin flip

Rather, it displays the probability that Trump will win the Electoral College — which is about 55 percent in our forecast, compared to about 45 percent for Harris.

Rather than a landslide, that implies an extremely uncertain and probably ultimately very close race — well in the range of what we’d consider a “toss-up”. In fact, the chance of a landslide — either Harris or Trump winning the popular vote by 10 points or more — is only about 5 percent in our model.


https://substack.com/@natesilver/p-14844...


I'd love to bet against the possibility of a 10% gap in popular vote at 20:1


by lozen P

Snip.


I realize US politics is in a bad place, but dear lord, this last page of the thread is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Hot takes copied from Twitter, bad AI art and jokes straight out of the Facebook feed of someone's slightly worrisome uncle.


by tame_deuces P

I realize US politics is in a bad place, but dear lord, this last page of the thread is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Hot takes copied from Twitter, bad AI art and jokes straight out of the Facebook feed of someone's slightly worrisome uncle.

Maga in a nutshell.


by chezlaw P

Nate Silver has trump has a small favorite in a near coin flip






270 to Win has seven states as toss ups. If you run all the possible combinations the results are Harris having winning 20 combinations and Trump winning 21 combinations for a near coin flip. The three ties are the real issue for Harris as a tie in the electoral college gets decided by the House of Rep which is currently controlled by the GOP which would pick Trump.


by tame_deuces P

I realize US politics is in a bad place, but dear lord, this last page of the thread is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Hot takes copied from Twitter, bad AI art and jokes straight out of the Facebook feed of someone's slightly worrisome uncle.

there's no other kind

From the same folks who gave us Sam Bankman-Fried, effective accelerationism, and NFTs, welcome to AI! The most hideous and soulless art imaginable!

The STEMlords gotta go. Absolute monsters.


by tame_deuces P

I realize US politics is in a bad place, but dear lord, this last page of the thread is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Hot takes copied from Twitter, bad AI art and jokes straight out of the Facebook feed of someone's slightly worrisome uncle.

by biggerboat P

Maga in a nutshell.

nah, both pre-Trump Republicans and Democrats are susceptible to this as well

I think it's fair to call this kind of thing our standard political discourse.


by ladybruin P




270 to Win has seven states as toss ups. If you run all the possible combinations the results are Harris having winning 20 combinations and Trump winning 21 combinations for a near coin flip. The three ties are the real issue for Harris as a tie in the electoral college gets decided by the House of Rep which is currently controlled by the GOP which would pick Trump.

There have been two sets of polls in Maine since 7/21/24 both by the University of New Hampshire and both for Likely Voters (LV).

The first set of polls was on July 25th. The Heads Up (HU) poll had Kamala ahead in Maine by 9%. RFK Jr. is not on the ballot in Maine but at the time Kamala was ahead by 8% in the Multi Candidate (MC) poll. In the 2nd District Kamala trailed by 2% HU and by 4% MC.

The second set of polls was on August 19th. In Maine Kamala was up by 17% HU and 17% MC with 58% of the vote HU and 55% MC. In the 2nd District Kamala was ahead by 5% HU and by 5% MC with 52% of the vote HU and 49% MC.

What I am getting at is that ME 2nd district should be a toss up not a likely Trump win. That 1 electoral vote would alter the tie scenarios that 270 to win has indicated. It would give 3 more potential Kamala win scenarios.

Given that it is one pollster that I have no idea whether they are biased or not, it clearly isn't definitive, but the ME 2nd District does look like it is leaning Kamala right now.


by lozen P

Correct and he ended up approving it

How many weapons did Obama send to Ukraine? Blankets do not count

51 days and Kamala only one interview and zero press conferences

I've explained to multiple times to you why this complaint is so stupid. The leader of Ukraine during the Obama administration is the same guy Putin would install now if the Zelensky government fails. Congress and Obama would have been insane to send that regime weapons. Trump tried to secretely exhort an illegal investigation of a US citizen and political opponent before sending aid congress had approved. Another word for that would be treason.


by Mr Rick P

What I am getting at is that ME 2nd district should be a toss up not a likely Trump win. That 1 electoral vote would alter the tie scenarios that 270 to win has indicated. It would give 3 more potential Kamala win scenarios.

Yeah it is crazy close. Any side or posters guaranteeing a victory right now is silly. The only thing I would feel marginally comfortable of betting on would be for Harris to win the popular vote. But Harris winning the popular vote might have her in a Zoom call with Al Gore and Hilary Clinton on election night.


by Mr Rick P

... but the ME 2nd District does look like it is leaning Kamala right now.


I hope we get some post debate September polling from the Maine 2nd district.

Nebraska 2nd District
One Electoral vote here also.
Republicans re-drew the district in 2021 in hopes of stealing away any chance Democrats have of winning the district.
Hope to see some quality post debate polling from NE-2 also.


i accused someone who shared a video of this in another thread of posting AI generative stuff because it's so bonkers

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/...



No one cares, progressives lost, patriots are in control now.


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

there's no other kind

From the same folks who gave us Sam Bankman-Fried, effective accelerationism, and NFTs, welcome to AI! The most hideous and soulless art imaginable!

The STEMlords gotta go. Absolute monsters.

I don't know if they are monsters, but I do certainly agree on the art. It's already choking human art online to a worrying degree.

by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

nah, both pre-Trump Republicans and Democrats are susceptible to this as well

I think it's fair to call this kind of thing our standard political discourse.

Suspectible is fair, I'm suspectible to it myself. However, MAGA is in a league of its own.

They pretty much never disagree on anything, policy is debated as if they're edgy teenagers and almost everything is a hot take from Twitter, Truth social or conservative Youtube. Compare it to the few rarer conservatives or left-leaning posters you see only on this forum, they disagree on everything. There is almost a certain pride in having your own takes, which can probably go to far in itself.

It's hard to describe what exactly is up with MAGA. I feel like the word "orthodoxy" comes closest.


by rickroll P

i accused someone who shared a video of this in another thread of posting AI generative stuff because it's so bonkers

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/...


Some will say that she didn't actually mean that. But I personally believe women.


My personal view is that she probably went from more progressive to more moderate, like Sinema did. That is by far the most common move in American politics, to go from super progressive to normal moderate.


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