Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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Not going to comment on the rest as it's kinda your standard ''the west is bad'' schpiel and can't believe the Palestinians are so dumb bla bla but Israel are behaving like criminals in the West Bank. They should be blamed for it and no I'm not going to excuse them shooting innocent people because they are very dangerous times indeed.
Now with that being said. What does it matter? Pretty sure the illegal settlements have been condemned and
Neither side gives much of a **** at this point.
Arab/Palestinian political leadership has never once been interested in a 2 state solution the last 75 years. Many political leaders, notably Arafat, have cynically used the kabuki theatre peace process to enrich themselves on western largesse. And during this time the people themselves have been steadfast they accept nothing but conquering Israel, and they expect the west to pay them to live as refugees on the border, subsidizing the resistance until this is accomplished.
It seems Israel was interested in a peace on its own terms (which in fairness were always a non starter for the Palestinians) up until the 2nd Infintada. And then Israel political leadership and society even lost interest in this.
The 2 state solution exists nowhere but in the Western imagination. It is DOA, and has been for decades.
Netanyahu has long propped up Hamas in order to undermine the Palestinian Authority, and he seemed giddy about doing so until it blew up in his face. Netanyahu needs to go as he is destroying any chance Israel and Palestine have of peace at every turn.
That said it’s hard to get rid of him because he seems to be standing in the way of disgusting Israeli right-wingers… sadly years of Palestinian terrorism against Israel and their own people as well as Iranian meddling and aggression have turned Israel cynical.
liberals will defend this
Actually little known fact but this is what happened at the mandalay bay in 2017. Steven paddock killed all of those people completely by accident. So this is a plausible explanation of what happened in the west bank and good on brandon for recognizing that.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...
Israel Offers Hamas Leader Safe Exit From Gaza in Bid to End War
went to watch the resistance report from Elmer and couldnt find it. looks like more big tech censorship to protect the pro-Israeli apartheid and colonial project. sad. no matter how hard they try, Israel and the USA have been exposed and they cant change that.
you can still watch Elmer and he starts at the 2:05 mark.
he actually addresses why they were taken down and it had to do with his edited resistance videos. lol they couldnt even get EI on antisemitism as much as they tried.
Israel bombed a school today and killed 6 teachers and kid. they have killed enough doctors, lawyers, professors, paramedics, activists, bakers, police and athletes that they have moved onto gradeschool teachers.
they also bombed a school in Syria just for funsies.
up to 11 teachers now
Barak Ravid folks
seems legit
and comparing people to vermin huh? hmm...
Totally impartial reporter
In an above-the-fold headline, The Washington Post is disputing Israel's claim to have killed an American citizen by accident.
In an above-the-fold headline, The Washington Post is disputing Israel's claim to have killed an American citizen by accident.
I doubt anyone here is going to click on the link and read. So I will provide cliffs. All the witnesses are anonymous anti Israeli activists. And the video evidence is secret and no one is allowed to watch it.
I know that I for one am very persuaded by secret videos no one can see and biased anonymous activists.
Although FWIW the article does state the "peaceful protesters" were attacking IDF soldiers and burning tires to obscure vision and block IDF troop movement, and IDF responded with tear gas and live fire. And the article also acknowledges this is common.
So basically the activist in question showed up to a periodic event where violence was very likely to occur. And she was collateral damage, although the fact activists wont release any of their video evidence indicates the evidence doesn't support the narrative. If she was actually shot by IDF troops, it was probably because she was in close proximity to militants attacking soldiers.
I doubt anyone here is going to click on the link and read. So I will provide cliffs. All the witnesses are anonymous anti Israeli activists. And the video evidence is secret and no one is allowed to watch it.
I know that I for one am very persuaded by secret videos no one can see and biased anonymous activists.
You are pretty persuaded by the mass rape hoax despite no video. Not even secret video, there just none.
Anyway, I've posted one of the eyewitnesses twice now. He's not anonymous and in fact has been arrested and jailed multiple times by Israel. (He's Jewish btw, that's proly why he isn't getting butt raped right now)
you can still watch Elmer and he starts at the 2:05 mark.
he actually addresses why they were taken down and it had to do with his edited resistance videos. lol they couldnt even get EI on antisemitism as much as they tried.
I never really looked at it this way. When they do it to Ukrainian videos it must be big tech censorship for the pro-Russia genocidal imperialism and colonialism project, they're just afraid to say "Russophobia".
Weird they seem to let both post when after they have removed the parts which aren't allowed on the platform though.
what parts were not allowed? what did EI show that was not allowed? be specific?
If you've forgotten what you said then you can read your original post or my post which quotes it.
glad that you agree that none of the EI videos broke any rules. maybe Ukraine should do the same if they dont want to get banned. I have not watched any of the Ukraine videos but I am just assuming that the threshold for banning pro-Imperial Western propaganda is a lot higher than actual freedom fighters against a genocide that most liberals support.
