[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

KSM got a plea deal. The guy who supposedly masterminded the 9/11 attacks is not getting the death penalty.

If you still think that AQ did 9/11 you should be in adult day care.

01 August 2024 at 05:08 PM
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by Playbig2000 P


Look in this spot and keep looping the video around 12 seconds. What is it?

Ejected smoke/dust from the interior collapse which began before the visible exterior collapse. Very clearly not explosives. You should watch what those look like some time. And sound like.


by Playbig2000 P

Are people really still that dumb to automatically believe anything and everything they read on wikipedia as fact?

As opposed to being really dumb for believing everything randoms like you and deuces post?


by Gorgonian P

Ejected smoke/dust from the interior collapse which began before the visible exterior collapse. Very clearly not explosives. You should watch what those look like some time. And sound like.

I was talking specifically about the white flashes of light, not the smoke.


by Deuces McKracken P

I don't respect your arguments or logical reasoning either, or that of any loyalist. But I try not to think of you as idiots. Talking with you about 9/11 is like telling a Christian that the bible is not the word of God. There are smart people who really believe in God. Do you ever wonder why you can't talk them out of their beliefs?

In all this discussions going back to the other thread there were, in total, 2 intelligent challengers

1) Ker


Posters in this thread: We think we saw enough destructive forces applied to the WTC to bring down the towers.

Deuces: you clowns believe anything the government tells you, YOU STUPID, SHEEPLE LOYALISTS.

Posters: what do you think happened.

Deuces: crickets

Later Deuces: i haven’t heard anything even slightly factual from any of you.


by Playbig2000 P

I was talking specifically about the white flashes of light, not the smoke.

I was talking specifically about the screenshot you provided.

If you mean something besides this:


then post it.


by jjjou812 P

As opposed to being really dumb for believing everything randoms like you and deuces post?

A pretty good heuristic would be to believe the exact opposite of everything Playbig posts. You wouldn't go far wrong.


There's flashes of white lights at the 12 second mark. The one circled in the middle above in the screen shot is the biggest one and the easiest one to spot. Just follow the corner of that chimney which is pointing right at it like an arrow, so focus on that spot while you watch it past 12 seconds, that flash is almost as big as a window so probably a couple feet in diameter. Then when you watch it again, focus in from the top right of the chimney about 20 to the left, that's where the other flashes all line up. They're quick so you'll have to watch it several times and sometimes if you're lucky you can freeze it right as they flash. They're clearly flashes of white light but the question is what would cause that in a building with no electricity?

Edit: disregard the one on the left, that was a solid object in the foreground.


by Playbig2000 P

There's flashes of white lights at the 12 second mark. The one circled in the middle above in the screen shot is the biggest one and the easiest one to spot. Just follow the corner of that chimney which is pointing right at it like an arrow, so focus on that spot while you watch it past 12 seconds, that flash is almost as big as a window so probably a couple feet in diameter. Then when you watch it again, focus in from the top right of the



by Playbig2000 P

There's flashes of white lights at the 12 second mark. The one circled in the middle above in the screen shot is the biggest one and the easiest one to spot. Just follow the corner of that chimney which is pointing right at it like an arrow, so focus on that spot while you watch it past 12 seconds, that flash is almost as big as a window so probably a couple feet in diameter. Then when you watch it again, focus in from the top right of the

They are not flashes of white light, they are likely just smoke or dust being ejected from the collapsing building. There's no mystery here. Did you look up what actual explosions look and sound like yet? Nothing like that.

Here, I'll help.


Thank you for posting the video. The flashes of white light in your video is obviously explosives going off, not smoke. The white flashes in building 7 look exactly like the flashes in your video above from the explosives, although not as many and they're smaller. This was a great video to compare apples with apples and what they might (or might not) be. They even traveled up the building in a similar manor (if you look above the big flash I circled in the center) just look above that white "chimney" just as it starts to fall and you can clearly see about 8 flashes of light (they only last a fraction of a second but you can see them with the naked eye).


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by Playbig2000 P

Thank you for posting the video. The flashes of white light in your video is obviously explosives going off, not smoke. The white flashes in building 7 look exactly like the flashes in your video above from the explosives

You're welcome and not even remotely.

by Playbig2000 P


They even traveled up the building in a similar manor (if you look above the big flash I circled in the center).

Literally not even remotely.

Now, let's talk about why you can't hear these so-called explosions in literally ANY recording. That was the secondary point of posting the video (after showing you that they don't look even remotely similar, which you just ignored and claimed they were identical LOL).


There were many people including firefighters that heard explosions coming from building 7 just before it went down.

You can see them better on this video (just disregard the context since this was produced by feds)

Watch it at the 23 second mark
https://youtu.be/PK_iBYSqEsc?si=mYebloZ7...


Tell you what, you post a series of screenshots showing building 7 looking like these 4 frames and maybe I can agree we should move on to comparing audios.









by Playbig2000 P

There were many people including firefighters that heard explosions coming from building 7 just before it went down.

No. We've gone over this. There were people that reported explosive sounds. That's different than explosions. Explosive sounds are common during large fires. The point is the TIMING. They should happen with the flashes like they do in the other video. But in every video of the collapse with sound there is a distinct lack of explosive sounds.


If someone was planning to take down a building and make it look like it was due to a fire, they'd probably hide the explosives as best they could, and who knows maybe use some kind of technology that masks the sound as well.


by Playbig2000 P

If someone was planning to take down a building and make it look like it was due to a fire, they'd probably hide the explosives as best they could, and who knows maybe use some kind of technology that masks the sound as well.

Excellent, excellent, we've finally arrived at the "the best evidence of this conspiracy is that there is no evidence of it" stage of the proceedings.


I'm having trouble keeping up. Is Playbig's theory the same as Deuce's theory, or is it dueling conspiracies?


by biggerboat P

I'm having trouble keeping up. Is Playbig's theory the same as Deuce's theory, or is it dueling conspiracies?

Deuces doesn't have a theory, other than anyone believing stuff they saw with their own eyes is a sheeple. Playbig is just being Playbig, not much new to see there.


by Deuces McKracken P


Do I see my recommendation totally absent from the public discourse? Yes. Do I think it's obviously the route we need to go? Yes. Do I think I'm brilliant for seeing what is needed? Nope. I'm just objective. It's not IQ it's just freedom of thought. I don't really know where it comes from or why you don't have it.

I know exactly where "it" comes from and why you have "it". You're not unique and everything you say we've all heard to the point of boredom. Not only did the planes not bring down the towers, it's high school physics that they didn't. It can't be more complicated because otherwise you couldn't understand it and be so sure. It was the same with Rpn Paul libertarian types and the impending dollar collapse. It couldn't be "well based on a bunch of game theory and analysis, the dollar will collapse". it was all "high school level thinking shows it's obvious the dollar won't be around in 2020", because otherwise, how would they understand it?

It's just your Russian invasion take all over again.

[quote=Deuces McKracken]
People here think Russia is going to invade the Ukraine? No, they are not. And Trump isn't going to be arrested, nor is he going to be somehow legally prevented from running for president again.

It's Russiagate. They got you guys on that and now they just know they can string you along with anything. You're like a bunch of kittens, those who believe a word out of Adam Schiff's mouth.[/quote]

Just no ability to see the information and understand what is going on. And not only that, the people who disagree with you, (who were 100% correct) must be stupid or "kittens" because otherwise someone like you could never be so sure they are wrong. But I think we all get the psychology of why you have to act this way; to cling to your beliefs of some "freedom of thought" that we lack.


by Gorgonian P

Now, let's talk about why you can't hear these so-called explosions in literally ANY recording. That was the secondary point of posting the video (after showing you that they don't look even remotely similar, which you just ignored and claimed they were identical LOL).

Many of the videos are done from a distance since the area was evacuated after the planes impacted. And many are made by consumer level camcorders. So we end up with video of planes hitting which barely capture any sound. You know that the visual range of a video camera is a lot larger than it's audio, right? Do you have a vague sense of how microphones work?

But there is a CNN video capturing explosions coming from building 7. I think I posted it ITT but if not you can find it by searching for a 9/11 video with CNN footage featuring Ashley Banfield. David Chandler made a video showing the intervals of the apparent explosions. The intervals are very precise, as if originating from a timing mechanism not a natural collapse.


by Deuces McKracken P

Many of the videos are done from a distance since the area was evacuated after the planes impacted.

As opposed to the controlled demolitions where they let people wander right up next to it. That's why you can hear the sounds so clearly in those, right? lol

by Deuces McKracken P


And many are made by consumer level camcorders. So we end up with video of planes hitting which barely capture any sound. You know that the visual range of a video camera is a lot larger than it's audio, right? Do you have a vague sense of how microphones work?

Your excuse for not picking up the enormous sounds of explosives is the microphones were not good enough?

LOLOLOL


by Deuces McKracken P


But there is a CNN video capturing explosions coming from building 7. I think I posted it ITT but if not you can find it by searching for a 9/11 video with CNN footage featuring Ashley Banfield. David Chandler made a video showing the intervals of the apparent explosions. The intervals are very precise, as if originating from a timing mechanism not a natural collapse.

Yes, please post this video. I'm sure the building falls down right after it, right? Can't wait to see.

Here's the video with Ashley Banfield. No explosion sounds but you can hear the building collapsing. Weird huh? (oh and LOL at the truther titling the video claiming there's an explosion sound when there CLEARLY isn't. hahahahaha)


Deucey--Simply not believing the planes/fires caused the bldgs to come down doesn't make you into an anti-govt freedom fighter anywhere other than in your mind. And the other side of it(meaning you're not some govt fanboy) is just as meaningless for believing they did. The only thing you're risking is a little social embarrassment lol. No cia hitters are coming for you--hell it's not even enough to get the local donut chompers interested.

That you continually try to frame it in those kinda terms is a massive red flag that you're completely disconnected from reality fyi.


by Playbig2000 P

There were many people including firefighters that heard explosions coming from building 7 just before it went down.

You can see them better on this video (just disregard the context since this was produced by feds)

Watch it at the 23 second mark
https://youtu.be/PK_iBYSqEsc?si=mYebloZ7...

Do you have any links to the 'many people including firefighters that heard explosions coming from building 7 just before it went down'?


by wet work P

Deucey--Simply not believing the planes/fires caused the bldgs to come down doesn't make you into an anti-govt freedom fighter anywhere other than in your mind. And the other side of it(meaning you're not some govt fanboy) is just as meaningless for believing they did. The only thing you're risking is a little social embarrassment lol. No cia hitters are coming for you--hell it's not even enough to get the local donut chompers interested.

T

Like his bff Luciom, Deuces posts so that we can be free.


by ecriture d'adulte P

I know exactly where "it" comes from and why you have "it". You're not unique and everything you say we've all heard to the point of boredom.

I'm somewhat unique. You've never heard half the stuff I say. You can't cite where you have because it isn't out there, not even in the vastness of Google. I'm just a little ahead of the curve. But the amount I am ahead, admittedly, always seems to be shrinking. I will be eclipsed before long, no doubt.


by ecriture d'adulte P

Not only did the planes not bring down the towers, it's high school physics that they didn't. It can't be more complicated because otherwise you couldn't understand it and be so sure.

So you are saying I understand high school physics? I think you should check with the braintrust and amend your statement. You wouldn't want to be outside the consensus.


by ecriture d'adulte P

It was the same with Rpn Paul libertarian types and the impending dollar collapse. It couldn't be "well based on a bunch of game theory and analysis, the dollar will collapse". it was all "high school level thinking shows it's obvious the dollar won't be around in 2020", because otherwise, how would they understand it?

Actually one of the few activities I can go in on with you neo libs is bashing the libertarians. They are the people you think I am or say you think I am, totally. I feel about them, sincerely, the same way you do.

by ecriture d'adulte P

It's just your Russian invasion take all over again.

I never claimed to bat 1.0. I thought it would be too stupid for Russia to do. And the anti-NATO Left, who is infinitely better at predicting outcomes than the liberals, thought the same. There were some really strong arguments against the invasion happening. I hope the people who keep flirting with nuclear war with Russia are again accurate in their assessment, which I assume is that they won't launch on us.


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