The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
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Neither of these are remotely problematic. If someone has told me they are lesbian or trans, I'm completely happy to say they are indeed lesbian or trans - and that this is ok. You haven't managed to find some big difference between the two.
I think any socially adept person understands the value of being accepting, especially toward a stranger. This isn’t a useful point.
Uh, I don't think anyone who says that - I'm happy to for instance - are suggesting it IS a "scientific claim" or "supported by science" like that it is some biological claim about their sex that is at dispute here. Instead it is more definitional, saying that of the people who identity as as women in society - i.e. a gender identity not a sex - that some of those people are cis and some are trans and that is totally fine and ok.
A lot of political slogans are vague and confusing, I suppose by design. Meat is murder. Taxation is theft. Slightly different, defund the police.
You can interpret this in various ways and people will do so.
I think it's probably better to just say what you mean. Like, "it's decent to treat people according to their gender identity."
Many interpret TWAW to mean they are indistinguishable. They will disagree with that statement, but would agree with the above.
As with defunct police, most people meant stuff like demilitarize the police, and use mental health professionals instead of police when appropriate. But there were also people who wanted to just stop having police. All were using the same slogan and it hurt the cause of the sensible people.
Some people really believe TWAW literally true and that it is supported by science.
if you study the issue deeply enough, rather than debate it on forums where you are correct in saying that most people dont understand this issue, you will eventually realize transgender men are men and transgender women are women. Once you realize this, then your arguement seems trite,
In truth your argument is no different than any other discriminatory belief , but it’s only discriminatory because you dont believe the truth. You sou
A lot of political slogans are vague and confusing, I suppose by design. Meat is murder. Taxation is theft. Slightly different, defund the police.
You can interpret this in various ways and people will do so.
I think it's probably better to just say what you mean. Like, "it's decent to treat people according to their gender identity."
Many interpret TWAW to mean they are indistinguishable. They will disagree with that statement, but would
Uh, no, advocates of trans people aren't claiming some biological or scientific thing that is inaccurate. It isn't like they are saying that trans women have XX chromosomes or that trans women have uteruses. That would be wrong, but that isn't the position of advocates of trans people (nor either of the people you quoted). Instead the claim is one of gender, not sex. Trans women are indeed literally women, as in their gender. Some women are trans and some are cis. If you prefer, you can say this is sort of definitional, that I'm defining the word women to be inclusive in this way. You can be mad at that, but it is silly to pretend this is any disagreement about the level of support by "science".
I think any socially adept person understands the value of being accepting, especially toward a stranger. This isn’t a useful point.
I'm glad to hear that any socially adept person is accepting of trans people. I still don't know gregory was going on about some supposed salient difference between lesbians and trans people on this point.
I'm glad to hear that any socially adept person is accepting of trans people. I still don't know gregory was going on about some supposed salient difference between lesbians and trans people on this point.
My point is the trans discussion is obviously more complicated than “How should I treat some random trans identifying person,” so it seems a bit dishonest that you keep using this frame for everything.
It’s easy for you to do this and trivialize the issue in this way when your family hasn’t been torn apart by it.
