Las Vegas Poker Player Vlogs

Las Vegas Poker Player Vlogs

Gobbo other Thread got closed by the mod said it doesn't belong in the House of Blogs, hoping we can have this one without Trooper talk.


This thread is to discuss local professional poker players on their journey. Please refrain from mentioning the local youtube celebrity who plays poker.

Links to their youtube channels

Andrew Neeme
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLTP4Ns...

PokerKraut
https://www.youtube.com/user/Pokerkraut

Tappan
https://www.youtube.com/user/tappanmoore


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by prev P

thnkbluepoker must be busto considering he only fires one 50 bb bullet playing 1/2 which he says is an awesome game. It makes no sense to do that unless you literally only have that amount in your bankroll.

Looks like he does uber and tries to make a buyin and then goes and plays and tries to run it up.

He should just uber for a few months and not touch poker until he has at least a small roll where he can actually play and handle bad beats

Are you sure at Hollywood Park that isn't the max buyin? I know California has some really weird rules for the low stakes games.

My biggest issue with TBP is he claims he can make $1500/week Ubering but that appears to be a pipe dream.

Last one: Why do Uber drivers act like they deserve to make more than $20 an Hour? I've done Uber for a month or two at a time. If I made $10/hr I thought it was a good night. (pre-pandemic, not in LA)

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by angle_shooter P

Nomad proves yet again what a buffoon he is. Claims that only part time players and recreational players need a separate bankroll for poker. Apparently he thinks people playing full time whose sole income is from poker don't need to have a bankroll.

How is it that this guy can be so utterly clueless on every single subject he discusses and yet he still goes around thinking he is the world's biggest genius? The exact opposite of what Nomad sa

Yeah, this. Its incredibly important to have your bankroll in check when you play fulltime or for primary source of income, because you cant play if you dont have money. Being out of action is absolutely critical, because you are now unable to make more money.

Besides that being overrolled for the games you play is also vastly underrated imo. In my experience pretty much every mental hurdle or mental leak can be located back to not being rolled properly/and or financial stress. The most effective recipe by far for maintaining a high winrate is to be overrolled for the games you play at a regular basis. Not only to be handling downswings more easy, but to be at ease when you play and be able to focus on reading the dynamics of the game=focusing on making +EV decisions rather than how will i be able to pay bills for the next month if i lose this big pot.

But that isnt important to Nomad of course, because is such a genius that he doesent go on downswings at all: he just stops playing whenever he loses a full buyin going back to his room to watch youtube multiple days in a row.


by Old Man Coffee P

The WSOP circuit was at Council Bluffs. I doubt he'd fly to Omaha / CB just for El D.

There's the answer. Did not realize that, lol.


by rickroll P

there's a special place in hell for any businesses or venues which charge their own customers for parking

So, almost all Strip casinos.


by topg2024 P

They also offer a one time tier match to Wynn Platinium. I got the Wynn Platinum through the Wynn tier match.

What did you need to get the Platinum?


by angle_shooter P

Nomad proves yet again what a buffoon he is. Claims that only part time players and recreational players need a separate bankroll for poker. Apparently he thinks people playing full time whose sole income is from poker don't need to have a bankroll.

How is it that this guy can be so utterly clueless on every single subject he discusses and yet he still goes around thinking he is the world's biggest genius? The exact opposite of what Nomad sa

Yeah, but Diesel is only kidding himself when he says he's a pro poker player. He's really a poker dealer. Unlike a poker pro, an event like the Great Ace Cracking of 2024 can just make him quit playing for awhile.

What he should've done is try to get a job dealing the Circuit event that was there in IA, to pad his roll that doesn't exist.


by ibelieveyouoweme$80k P

Are you sure at Hollywood Park that isn't the max buyin? I know California has some really weird rules for the low stakes games.

My biggest issue with TBP is he claims he can make $1500/week Ubering but that appears to be a pipe dream.

Last one: Why do Uber drivers act like they deserve to make more than $20 an Hour? I've done Uber for a month or two at a time. If I made $10/hr I thought it was a good night. (pre-pandemic, not in LA)

Sent fr

even if that's the case, who takes only 1 buy in when they play?


by Petrucci P

Yeah, this. Its incredibly important to have your bankroll in check when you play fulltime or for primary source of income, because you cant play if you dont have money. Being out of action is absolutely critical, because you are now unable to make more money.

Besides that being overrolled for the games you play is also vastly underrated imo. In my experience pretty much every mental hurdle or mental leak can be located back to not being rol

I've been super overolled for my games for probably 15 years. However I don't say I have x dollars dedicated to poker bc that's pointless. I have most of my money in the stock market and crypto and some in banks earning 5 percent. I went on basically a 40 buy in down swing at live plo this year which was my biggest ever. I had done about 35 buy ins before 7-8 years ago. All that really meant was I had to bring more cash for my box in a poker room i play at often where a lot of the carnage occured.

You're right that being overolled helps a ton at handling swings. I've seen tons of people over the years spend like crazy when running well then they lose 10 or 20 buy ins and can't handle it. They keep tilting and you never see them again. It doesn't feel good showing up to get your teeth kicked in day after day but if you play long enough you're going to go through stretches where that's what happens. How you handle it can make or break you.

Even poker pros have a hard time at grasping EV. If i make 10,000 dollars next time I play 5/5/10 plo that doesn't mean I played 10,000 dollars of +ev poker. It just means I ran really well that night. And if I lose 10k it doesn't mean I played 10k of bad poker.

You can't control the cards. You can run crying to council bluffs if you're aces get cracked for 150 bucks and be completely mentally shook over it or you can learn to handle swings and be objective with you're play. If I have a night where I go 1 for 10 in all ins I'm almost certainly going to lose. It doesn't feel good but if I played those hands correctly then I don't worry about it. Now what I will do is try and find mistakes I made. Maybe I lost 8,000 dollars on the night running like death but I made a bad call for 150 dollars. I could have lost 7850 instead if I played better. It's hard for people to take a step back like this in general especially if you're a downswing away from the poor house but long term it's a very important skill to have in poker.

The pace of live poker is so slow and people are still very bad especially when running bad. How you handle losing is so much more important in live games where edges can be massive than the minutia of trying to grind out an extra 26 cents of ev on a hand that might come up once a year with some perfectly memorized solve. There's a ton of money to be won from tilting players and a ton to be saved not tilting.


by ibelieveyouoweme$80k P

Are you sure at Hollywood Park that isn't the max buyin? I know California has some really weird rules for the low stakes games.

My biggest issue with TBP is he claims he can make $1500/week Ubering but that appears to be a pipe dream.

Last one: Why do Uber drivers act like they deserve to make more than $20 an Hour? I've done Uber for a month or two at a time. If I made $10/hr I thought it was a good night. (pre-pandemic, not in LA)

Sent fr

You thought $10/hour was a good night? Are you talking about a net of $10/hour after expenses, or before? You like working for free?

I can tell you this: a close friend of mine drove for Lyft full time for about 6 years from 2017 to 2023 and grossed between $75,000 to $105,000 per year. His expenses ranged between $30,000 to $35,000.


No. Typo. $20/hr

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by RidePolaris P

You thought $10/hour was a good night? Are you talking about a net of $10/hour after expenses, or before? You like working for free?

I can tell you this: a close friend of mine drove for Lyft full time for about 6 years from 2017 to 2023 and grossed between $75,000 to $105,000 per year. His expenses ranged between $30,000 to $35,000.

$105k over 52 weeks at 100 hours a week is a little over 20/hr. I'll bet he had to put in close to 100 hours a week to hit that number.

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Being over-rolled might be an advantage for poker players who are already playing at the highest stakes that they can beat. Otherwise, being over-rolled simply means that you should be playing higher stakes and earning more.

For any given edge there's an optimum bankroll size, above which your bankroll will be growing too slowly, and below which, your risk of ruin will be too high. It's simple for me with Blackjack I just recalibrate my betting ramp every time my BR goes up/down by 10k.

BR for me can refer to the physical cash I have immediately available for play in a single session/day, or a trip. For some people, like TBC, the terms bankroll and net worth are interchangeable. I think that's ridiculous. Firstly you need some of that money to live, particularly if you have no other job/income. And secondly I would only be including cash that is on hand and readily accessible. In other words; physical cash and funds in a bank that are available to you on call.


by angle_shooter P

Being over-rolled might be an advantage for poker players who are already playing at the highest stakes that they can beat. Otherwise, being over-rolled simply means that you should be playing higher stakes and earning more.

For any given edge there's an optimum bankroll size, above which your bankroll will be growing too slowly, and below which, your risk of ruin will be too high. It's simple for me with Blackjack I just recalibrate my bett

While true poker doesn't scale like blackjack. If you double your spread in blackjack you double your ev. (or more since rules tend to get better the higher stakes you play for BJ.)

I can beat higher stakes than I play but for how much more? As you move up in poker bigger games often either don't exist, they're atrocious or they significantly higher than what you normally play and don't run often. So if some 50/100/200 plo game I can get a seat in pops up 3-4 times a year how well am I really going to play in that game when I'm not used to playing for those stakes? Then how well am I really going to play if I get wrecked knowing it could take 6 months or a year to get back what I lost at my normal stakes?

Additionally how many people play well when underolled, especially for bigger stakes? Playing overolled lets you use chips as tools and play stress free. Playing on a tight roll makes it way harder to handle swings, most people play way too scared and aren't playing nearly as good as they would if they had a lot more money. If I'm playing in the biggest game in the poker room at the time it's all advantage to be overolled.

People who can't handle swings give their money away and people playing so timid bc the money means to much only put money in when they have it and are really easy to play against.

Sure online if someone is starting out are .1/.25 nl they can double their roll and move up to .25/.5 nl then double it again and move to .5/1 nl.

But once you get to a certain point the games simply don't exist to keep moving up. And these days in public games that number really isn't that high.

I mean really how many public 10/20 nl games are there running in the country these days? It's not like if someone has a couple million dollars and is good at poker then can just stroll over to HCL and play with horrible players sitting with 50-100k in front of them. Games in general are just a lot smaller than they were 10-20 years ago in live poker.

As far as bankroll- it's kind of semantics. The less you have the more your living expenses deplete a bank roll. So if someone has say 20k to their name it's probably smart to put aside a chunk of it in case they break even/lose for a few months to be able to live and use the rest for poker.

I don't have some set amount for poker and likely never will. I'm not in any danger of not being able to pay my bills and I'm not playing so big I can ever go broke from poker. making up some arbitrary number and calling it my poker bankroll at this point would be pretty pointless. If i had gone 50k down instead of 40k down it's not like I would have quit poker so what's the difference if i say my bankroll is my net worth or i say it's net worth-x?

If someone is 10, 20,30 years into playing poker for a living and they're still so short on cash they need a separate life bankroll they're really in deep **** if they get sick or they run really bad for a while at the tables.

A trip/session bankroll is different than an actual poker bank roll. That's just being limited by logistics.


Diesel not worrying about a separate bankroll makes sense. What is he going to do if he sees his BR is too low, move down? The purpose of a separate bankroll is to ensure you stay in action. Whether he tracks his BR separately or not his next move is doing something other than poker.


by ibelieveyouoweme$80k P

This is gonna be a great day as everyone else weighs in with how dumb his logic is

what the hell was he talking about at 1:30


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what could go wrong


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by ibelieveyouoweme$80k P


My biggest issue with ThinkBluePoker is he claims he can make $1500/week Ubering but that appears to be a pipe dream.


People are delusional when they talk about how much they can make Ubering/Lyfting.
And they completely ignore the expense side of the equation.


by borg23 P

While true poker doesn't scale like blackjack. If you double your spread in blackjack you double your ev.

I can beat higher stakes than I play but for how much more? As you move up in poker bigger games often either don't exists, they're atrocious or they significantly higher than what you normally play and don't run often. So if some 50/100/200 plo game I can get a seat in pops up 3-4 times a year how well am I really going to play in that

Yeah when it comes to bankroll management for poker players there are a lot of other considerations other than just what is mathematically optimal. Like you point out there are several reasons why it might not be practical or possible to just change stakes in poker like it is in Blackjack.

However I don't agree that it's not relevant just because a winning poker player has been doing it a certain number of years. What if all their money is tied up in property or other non liquid investments and they only have access to a small amount of cash? Or what if they simply spend all their winnings and never actually grow their bankroll properly.

Keeping a separate bankroll for poker is vital because it allows you to keep playing at the optimal stakes. People could make millions from gambling but have nothing to show for it if they don't have proper bankroll management. If they consistently are spending/blowing their winnings and not using it to grow their bankroll then they will inevitably be under-rolled and will be playing with unacceptable risk of ruin even if they are winning players. It just makes sense to have a seperate roll for gambling that you treat like a business and the rest of your money for everything else.

The only exception to this would be if someone literally has unlimited money just sitting around doing nothing that they don't need to worry about managing it properly, but for most people their money is limited and usually is invested one way or another, so the money they have actually dedicated to poker needs to be managed as optimally as possible.


i think a lot of you guys are coming from the online perspective

for my online stuff, that's all clearly separated via funds in the account - i have a ballpark range i want to stick to - if it falls below that range i do not deposit but rather just continue the grind because my sweetspot is still providing a very healthy margin if it sinks below - it's more of a "way to easily mentally calculate how much i've lost since last withdrawal because i only withdraw around x to if it's x-5k then i know i'm down about 5k since then - i only withdraw when it goes above that range (or when there's special circumstances where i can better put those funds to use elsewhere etc

even during the offseasons where the account will be fairly inactive for a few months, i'll still leave 5 figures in there

so i definitely have a bankroll

whereas for offline stuff - while i do have a "bankroll" and keep track of everything - where those funds come from is a bit up in the air

i am not going to create a 2nd bank account, i keep what is reasonably gong to be utilized available in cash on hand (i have a fanny pack of uncashed sports tickets and wads of cash) but i regularly say "woah that's way more cash than i need i'm going to start using my credit cards less and start paying for things with this" and likewise there's a bunch of times where for a variety of reasons i'll need to hit up that atm and grab cash to add to a position

so yes I technically have a "roll" but it's all the same more or less

if i had mortage payments or children to support i'd be much more diligent about fencing off the funds i need to survive the next year

but as it stands i try to operate leanly and efficiently - if i have more than 4 figures in savings then i feel like i'm not doing it optimally, that money should instead be getting put to use on something else, why didn't i roll that 10k into 100x$100 bestball drafts etc?


so i get it and can understand where he's coming from and i don't think for one second that i'm financially irresponsible - i've survived covid with zero income, i've survived 8-9 month break even stretches - i'm not winging it, i just think arbitrarily having two bank accounts etc doesn't make much sense because i'm operating on my own

if i were working as a team then yeah without a doubt i'd be doing separation of funds and more careful accounting of whether that $82 profit from last session goes into what pool - but i'm ridin solo so there's no need to designate whether that $82 goes towards my next sportsbet or poker session or buying flowers and yayo as a gift in my continued efforts to swoon over lt


by Langdon P

from the man himself


A true clown...


The difference over the years between having a dedicated and optimally managed bankroll and just saying yolo will be night and day. It's like someone who invests half their pay every month and someone who just spends all their pay every single month. After 40 years of working life the difference in where they end up financially can often be 7 figures


by angle_shooter P

Yeah when it comes to bankroll management for poker players there are a lot of other considerations other than just what is mathematically optimal. Like you point out there are several reasons why it might not be practical or possible to just change stakes in poker like it is in Blackjack.

However I don't agree that it's not relevant just because a winning poker player has been doing it a certain number of years. What if all their money is t

The optimal stakes for poker basically don't exist for anyone with just a decent amount of money.

Blowing money on nonsense is a life leak not a poker bankroll leak. Someone who does this is endanger of going broke but it's not bc they won't designate a poker bankroll. We see athletes do this all of the time and they don't need to set aside money to buy into an NFL game for example. I don't need a separate poker bankroll in order to not waste my money on stupid ****.


by angle_shooter P

The difference over the years between having a dedicated and optimally managed bankroll and just saying yolo will be night and day. It's like someone who invests half their pay every month and someone who just spends all their pay every single month. After 40 years of working life the difference in where they end up financially can often be 7 figures

this is just the difference b/w being good with money/investing well and spending like an idiot/not investing. it has nothing to do with "x dollars" is for poker once you have a reasonable amount of money to play publicly available games. it's not different than 2 people working the same job making the same amount of money for 20-40 years. the person who invests well will have way more than the guy who spends like a drunken sailor.

if someone says they need 50k or even 100k for the games they play and they don't save/invest and just blow everything else there's a very good chance they end up broke especially as they get older and health issues can creep up. dedicating 50k to poker won't help much when things go really bad and they've blown everything else.

you see it even more in tournaments- someone finally has a huge score and they piss the money away quickly thinking it's sustainable. that's really a life leak.


by borg23 P


Blowing money on nonsense is a life leak not a poker bankroll leak.

You are advocating for not even having a poker bankroll at all. That might work fine for you, but I'd argue that it won't work out well for a lot of people.

by borg23 P

Someone who does this is endanger of going broke but it's not bc they won't designate a poker bankroll.

If they did have one they at least give themselves a chance to not blow it and grow it instead.


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