Israel/Palestine thread
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Give credit where it is due, this is a pretty good troll. But the fact Palestinian's in Gaza even have carte blanche to troll the IDF like this indicates that most of the pro Islamist hyperbole of the campaign is not very accurate.
this video is from the West Bank. I remember when it came out.
Give credit where it is due, this is a pretty good troll. But the fact Palestinian's in Gaza even have carte blanche to troll the IDF like this indicates that most of the pro Islamist hyperbole of the campaign is not very accurate.
It's being obviously recorded.
Even the worst view of the idf wouldn't have them killing a kid sitting in a chair whilst on camera
so long as you declare it a closed military zone and say that everyone there is an intentional human shield then its fine. this was the main way that Hamas screwed up the Nova Festival. they forgot to check that box.
What "protected status?" Murdering civilians en masse has been fair game for Israel for a year now.
Nice one. Another slogan to add to the repetoire. We got
“Existence is resistance”
“The oppressed have a right to resist their oppressors”
“It’s not a war it’s a genocide”
“The genocide didn’t start on October 7th”
“From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”
“Zionist colonizer babies”
“Rapes didn’t happen”
Anything I’m missing?
so long as you declare it a closed military zone and say that everyone there is an intentional human shield then its fine. this was the main way that Hamas screwed up the Nova Festival. they forgot to check that box.
Well no, Palestinians are the oppressor so they’re not allowed to resist. Since zionists are the oppressed class they can resist by any means necessary. Long live the anti-colonial IDF!
first of all, I have no problem citing Hamas. they are much more honest than the Western press.
If you mean honest in that their stated aim is to wipe Israel off the map, and they make no apologies for this, or that they diligently recorded the murder and torture that took place on 7/10, and uploaded it to the internet as proof of their atrocities, then I guess you're right.
I don't think that.
Nonetheless the fact they didn't while obviously being recorded still tells us ~nothing
Give credit where it is due, this is a pretty good troll. But the fact Palestinian's in Gaza even have carte blanche to troll the IDF like this indicates that most of the pro Islamist hyperbole of the campaign is not very accurate.
That account is a known alt right source that's been proven to have propagated fake news in the past so it's hardly a valid source
That account is a known alt right source that's been proven to have propagated fake news in the past so it's hardly a valid source
the alt right is super-against Ukraine and very pro Putin, and not in love with Israel at all, that account is ultra pro-Ukraine and pro Israel so the definition isn't reasonable at all
They're Polish, their views are not going to line up with the foreign policy of the alt right in other nations. They were notably far right before Russia invaded.
the alt right is super-against Ukraine and very pro Putin, and not in love with Israel at all, that account is ultra pro-Ukraine and pro Israel so the definition isn't reasonable at all
Yeah. Polish don't like Russians due to a spot of bother in the past. So even far right Polish will be pro Ukraine. There's also the part about their proven propagation of fake news in the past so again aren't a reliable source.
Also Giorgia Meloni is pro Ukraine and is still far right despite your apparent disagreement on this so such things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive anyway.
Yeah you are correct, far right.
Woke up to atrocious images of Gazan dads holding their young daughters whose heads were half missing. Would any on #teamIDF like to see them?
Yeah. Polish don't like Russians due to a spot of bother in the past. So even far right Polish will be pro Ukraine. There's also the part about their proven propagation of fake news in the past so again aren't a reliable source.
Also Giorgia Meloni is pro Ukraine and is still far right despite your apparent disagreement on this so such things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive anyway.
Lol at Meloni being "far right", she didn't even touch abortion at all. If being like the median european in 1995 with regards to immigration is "far right" that's just insane of a definition.
But anyway even if "far right", that's not ALT right. Alt -right is ultra antisemitic, pro Putin, completly anti-neocon, and in europe they hate the USA
Lol at Meloni being "far right", she didn't even touch abortion at all. If being like the median european in 1995 with regards to immigration is "far right" that's just insane of a definition.
But anyway even if "far right", that's not ALT right. Alt -right is ultra antisemitic, pro Putin, completly anti-neocon, and in europe they hate the USA
She's been part of the Italian neo fascist movement since she's 15 so yeah she's absolutely fa right and we've had this convo before, I get you disagree and that's ok. She's still far right. I don't see any difference between far and alt right and feel you're talking semantics, but you do have my apologies if I offended your far right sensibilities.
She's been part of the Italian neo fascist movement since she's 15 so yeah she's absolutely fa right and we've had this convo before, I get you disagree and that's ok. She's still far right. I don't see any difference between far and alt right and feel you're talking semantics, but you do have my apologies if I offended your far right sensibilities.
Need to do far right policies to be far right. I agree a lot of the polish right is far right (not alt right) which for example is why they banned abortion. And they passed laws allowing soldiers to shoot to kill at trespassers on the border, that's far right i agree.
What did Meloni actually do in 2 years to be considered far right? she governs with a reasonably big majority so she can basically pass any law that is constitutional & abides to EU treaties. We have no constitutional right to abortion and there is no constitutional right to abortion in EU treaties (which is why it is illegal to have an abortion in Malta).
Meloni didn't touch abortion laws.
It's not about sensibilities but using words with some meaning. If Meloni is far right, how do you call someone who is exceptionally to the right of her, like the polish themselves we were discussing? Meloni just gave a fiscal bonus to mothers who have jobs, that is the polar opposite of being far right. The far right doesn't want women to be working when they have kids, and they build the fiscal system toward that (see Hungary and Poland again).
Need to do far right policies to be far right. I agree a lot of the polish right is far right (not alt right) which for example is why they banned abortion. And they passed laws allowing soldiers to shoot to kill at trespassers on the border, that's far right i agree.
What did Meloni actually do in 2 years to be considered far right? she governs with a reasonably big majority so she can basically pass any law that is constitutional & abides
Abortion is legal in Italy since the 70s and for a far rightist Meloni strikes me as surprisingly shrewd, so it's no surprise she won't unnecessarily rock the boat by touching laws in place for nearly 50 years. I've already given my very valid reason how she's fr right and again totally get you disagree. Now granted maybe she's not far right enough for you- but she's still far right. Maybe if she wasn't involved with neo Fascism for over 30 years I might not consider her as far right. But she is so I do.
