2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by d2_e4 P

I'm gonna go ahead and call BS on that.

I'll bet $50 with you that it's true and that David can verify it. But I don't imagine he will care to, which would make it a freeroll for me, and thus unfair.


by Tuma P

I'll bet $50 with you that it's true and that David can verify it. But I don't imagine he will care to, which would make it a freeroll for me, and thus unfair.

If he can show the calculations, and I can't demonstrate he's stolen them from somewhere, and I can't find any errors in them, I'll donate $50 to the charity of your choice.

I don't know craps all that well, but I know the different bets have different edges and probably different levels of complexity to calculate the house edge. Which specific bet are we talking about here? I mean, I do believe he can calculate the odds of rolling a 7 or not rolling a 7 with a pair of dice.


by StoppedRainingMen P


If biden steps down trump’s done

Which candidate out of the democrat roster beats Trump?


Won't a lot of democrats be demoralized seeing Biden get thrown out like this?


by d2_e4 P

If he can show the calculations, and I can't demonstrate he's stolen them from somewhere, and I can't find any errors in them, I'll donate $50 to the charity of your choice.

I don't know craps all that well, but I know the different bets have different edges and probably different levels of complexity to calculate the house edge. Which specific bet are we talking about here? I mean, I do believe he can calculate the odds of rolling a 7 or no

I really don't know. Im effectively in pre-algebra at this point. How about if he performs some gangster math for us you lose.

Sorry for jamming up this thread. I will bow out of P&S for a few days.


by Tuma P

I really don't know. Im effectively in pre-algebra at this point. How about if he performs some gangster math for us you lose.

Sklansky doesn't know any gangster math, bro. I can direct you to a number of threads where he's tried to act like he knows maths and been owned by posters who actually know what they are talking about. Someone created an account called "Mathematical Dick" seemingly just to troll Sklansky & correct him (it wasn't me).

From memory, this thread in particular ending up a bit of an embarrassment for our resident genius in pretty much every respect, including maths: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/285/p...


by BOIDS P

whats his national profile like. could they pick him out of a lineup?

maybe all they know is that he's dem gov of cali, which would put a lot of people off straight away if they dont know anything else about him

i expect he would win by a fairly large margin if he ran against trump


Not that popular everywhere but no bad either.... he's good looking and that helps a ton.




I'd go allin on Newson at this point. All the chips, the kitchen sink and the spoon.


Newsome has a lot going against him because a lot of people think California is a dumpster because its been targeted heavily by msm propaganda. I think it would be hard for him to overcome the image of free looting in downtown San Francisco or the wild propaganda about the anti-discrimination bill they just passed


by Tien P

Which candidate out of the democrat roster beats Trump?


Won't a lot of democrats be demoralized seeing Biden get thrown out like this?

England hated Rishi and the tories so much that they didn’t care that they knew nothing about the alternative, they came to him in droves

Trump losing was always going to be about the argument being ‘come on, it’s Donald ****ing Trump’ and making the election a referendum on him. The Dems could put up anyone other than a barely living 82 year old and the focus becomes back on trump again and Dems win


Biden leaving is +EV for democrats .
U couldn’t blame much on his replacement for the last 4 years .
And it ain’t that bad since they don’t care much on actually what good Biden did anyway …
So mind as well get rid of the bad talking points about Biden by letting him go since democrats seem unable to gains anything from the positive things shrug

The only way democrats would win anything from Biden good job is another democrats go debate trump and actually stick in his face when trump lies .


by Tien P

It really perplexes me how someone like Newson polls badly in the swing states. I'd insta vote for him if I had to choose between him, Biden, Trump or any other pick out there.


Do the swing states voters really hate him that much?

correct me if i'm mistaken, but i thought you were a pretty big conservative


i would vote for a democrat cha cha chia pet over the orange menace


by Tien P

Not that popular everywhere but no bad either.... he's good looking and that helps a ton.




I'd go allin on Newson at this point. All the chips, the kitchen sink and the spoon.

Lol - you know the difference between a national and a swing state poll don't you? The dems should be picking a Whitmer/Buttigieg ticket.


by rickroll P

correct me if i'm mistaken, but i thought you were a pretty big conservative


On many issues conservative, others pretty liberal. Big liberal things that I am for are universal health care / anti guns / anti war / pro abortion up until a few months / de privatization of universities.


But I hate the pro tax part of modern liberals. Good thing as a Canadian I don't have to worry about most of this.


by coordi P

Newsome has a lot going against him because a lot of people think California is a dumpster because its been targeted heavily by msm propaganda. I think it would be hard for him to overcome the image of free looting in downtown San Francisco or the wild propaganda about the anti-discrimination bill they just passed

Don't forget the $20 minimum wage and concomitant mass closure of beloved fast food chains.


by Tien P

On many issues conservative, others pretty liberal. Big liberal things that I am for are universal health care / anti guns / anti war / pro abortion up until a few months / de privatization of universities.


But I hate the pro tax part of modern liberals. Good thing as a Canadian I don't have to worry about most of this.

A conservative liberal is a rare species in a extinction phase 😀.


by Luckbox Inc P

Don't forget the $20 minimum wage and concomitant mass closure of beloved fast food chains.

Well where would those workers comes from since they couldn’t afford housing in California for 10$ an hour working in fast food chain I suppose ?

I doubt for 10$ an hour they would travel 2-3 hours a day .


20 bucks per hour hurt mcdonalds so badly that they had to bring back the $5 meal deal.....and advertise it nationally.

gotta be rough...


by Montrealcorp P

A conservative liberal is a rare species in a extinction phase 😀.

Hardcore capitalist that has many liberal avenues.

That doesn't exist in the wild.

So that means I prolly vote Democrat in USA most of the time and never voting liberal or NDP in Canada.


by Tien P

Hardcore capitalist that has many liberal avenues.

That doesn't exist in the wild.

So that means I prolly vote Democrat in USA most of the time and never voting liberal or NDP in Canada.

Well fwiw I don’t consider the current Canadian liberals true liberals .
I feel they are even more left then the npd presently so it’s all good😀


by Tien P

On many issues conservative, others pretty liberal. Big liberal things that I am for are universal health care / anti guns / anti war / pro abortion up until a few months / de privatization of universities.


But I hate the pro tax part of modern liberals. Good thing as a Canadian I don't have to worry about most of this.

Honestly, you are more or less a typical upper middle class California NIMBY. Social progressive, but when it comes to tax issues, always votes to pay as little personal tax as possible; mostly through amendments at the local/state level. And on top of this probably uses a CPA/tax service that helps them milk tax laws to maximize deductions.

And of course aggressively votes against zoning reform that would decrease the desirability/value of their primary residence, where a lot of their wealth is stored under favorable tax laws, especially if they bought a long time ago.


by Dunyain P

Honestly, you are more or less a typical upper middle class California NIMBY. Social progressive, but when it comes to tax issues, always votes to pay as little personal tax as possible; mostly through amendments at the local/state level. And on top of this probably uses a CPA/tax service that helps them milk tax laws to maximize deductions.

And of course aggressively votes against zoning reform that would decrease the desirability/valu

U think conservative billionaires act differently with tax or to defend their properties or wealth?
Given a choice I don’t think anyone would gladly pay more tax for the heck of it .
It just people can be different about what is worth it and what’s not .
In the conservative mind , nothing is worth much except themselves personally ….(Jesus would be proud !) .
That is probably what make some conservative a bit more friendly (social liberals) with unknown « neighbors » then other conservative (hating anything unknown or different ) .


by Dunyain P

Honestly, you are more or less a typical upper middle class California NIMBY. Social progressive, but when it comes to tax issues, always votes to pay as little personal tax as possible; mostly through amendments at the local/state level. And on top of this probably uses a CPA/tax service that helps them milk tax laws to maximize deductions.

And of course aggressively votes against zoning reform that would decrease the desirability/valu

Upper middle class NIMBYs are normally not capitalists.


by Montrealcorp P

Well fwiw I don’t consider the current Canadian liberals true liberals .
I feel they are even more left then the npd presently so it’s all good😀

Canadian Liberals are a lot more to the left than American Liberals. A lot.


by Tien P

Not that popular everywhere but no bad either.... he's good looking and that helps a ton.




I'd go allin on Newson at this point. All the chips, the kitchen sink and the spoon.

If you are talking in terms of gambling, I strongly disagree. If Biden drops out, I think it is very unlikely that a CA VP will be supplanted by a different CA candidate. If Kamala isn't the nominee, I expect that the top and the bottom of the ticket will be people from swing states.


by Tuma P

I really don't know. Im effectively in pre-algebra at this point. How about if he performs some gangster math for us you lose.

Sorry for jamming up this thread. I will bow out of P&S for a few days.


please dont!!!!

by #Thinman P

20 bucks per hour hurt mcdonalds so badly that they had to bring back the $5 meal deal.....and advertise it nationally.

gotta be rough...

they did that cause of inflation. wages arent $20 nationwide

by Tien P

Canadian Liberals are a lot more to the left than American Liberals. A lot.


who isnt?


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