2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by Luciom P

But the lack of any logic in your thoughts here makes it clear why you vote left.

I'm in favor of checks and balances. I no more want the government to have unbridled power than I do corporations.

Corporations, if left unchecked, have historically misbehaved and will continue to do so unless some entity has the power to put the brakes on them.
"Free markets" is not that entity.


by biggerboat P

I'm in favor of checks and balances. I no more want the government to have unbridled power than I do corporations.

Corporations, if left unchecked, have historically misbehaved and will continue to do so unless some entity has the power to put the brakes on them.
"Free markets" is not that entity.

Checks and balances on PRICES? where did it ever work without causing disastrous life quality reductions for the population?


by Luciom P

Checks and balances on PRICES? where did it ever work without causing disastrous life quality reductions for the population?

umm....prescription drug prices........


by corradosoprano P

Are you saying that was the crowd size when vance spoke? Are you really this gullible?
Or are you coping with the thought of another trump presidency

If you want to know what I said, you can just read my post again. You don't have to ask me what I was saying. It's all there in black and white.


by housenuts P

I support free markets.

Money printing and inflation lead to higher prices.

Reap what you sow with expanded government spending.

If you think hundreds of millions of dollars funneled by big business into politicians to craft 'market' laws favorable to their corporations results in a free market then I have a imaginary currency to sell you.


by biggerboat P

umm....prescription drug prices........

Which aren't set by the government?

The government can decide not to pay a drug more than X when it pays for it , that isn't price control, price control is banning the producer from selling it at a higher price to a private individual /company.

In places like Italy where they do price controls for drugs, you get scarcity. Like good luck getting Ozempic/Wegovy here for example

source in italian

https://www.ilpost.it/2024/04/10/ozempic...

Super-rationed because the government pays for it and makes it illegal to get it privately, people go to switzerland where there is less communism to buy it


by pocket_zeros P

If you think hundreds of millions of dollars funneled by big business into politicians to craft 'market' laws favorable to their corporations results in a free market then I have a imaginary currency to sell you.

Laws is basically the antithesis to free


by Luciom P

Checks and balances on PRICES? where did it ever work without causing disastrous life quality reductions for the population?

interest rates aka the price of a loan

Price controls are unnecessary. Let the govt become a supplier of the basics; milk eggs cheese , and let the govt sell it to the people for the low


by pocket_zeros P

If you think hundreds of millions of dollars funneled by big business into politicians to craft 'market' laws favorable to their corporations results in a free market then I have a imaginary currency to sell you.

Right now the setting of prices in most things is actually free, outside of antitrust considerations.


by PointlessWords P

interest rates aka the price of a loan

good thing then the government doesn't set that either for most transactions in the market, and for most of the interest curve, which is why you don't get a loan at fed funds rate


by housenuts P

Laws is basically the antithesis to free

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by housenuts P

Laws is basically the antithesis to free

And yet that's the world we live in because the laws already exist. To call efforts to counteract the effect of those money-influenced laws as anti-free market demonstrates a lack of awareness about how the world works.


by PointlessWords P

Let the govt become a supplier of the basics; milk eggs cheese , and let the govt sell it to the people for the low

Blow jobs. You forgot blow jobs.


You know, we have laws because people don't really like getting murdered, or having toxic waste poured into their drinking water. Stuff like that.


by Luciom P

good thing then the government doesn't set that either for most transactions in the market, and for most of the interest curve, which is why you don't get a loan at fed funds rate

I thought some states did


Regulatory capture is not a good thing. It limits competition and makes small businesses unable to compete.


by Didace P

Blow jobs. You forgot blow jobs.

Did we ever establish if PW's interest in this policy was on the demand side or the supply side?


by housenuts P

It limits competition and makes small businesses unable to compete.

so do monopolies


Food is one of the most fragmented markets in the USA, if not the most fragmented, as a sector.


I would be interested in how price gouging is defined in regards to groceries. It's such a low margin business at all steps along the way.


They won't define anything imo, it's just campaign slogans, and if republicans object, they will answer like biggerboat did here "ah so you like companies doing evil to the people", they know their chicken as we say in italian.

Basic populism, going after the worst insticts of the masses, against all logic and reason, pandering to them, but when the left does it it's never a threat to democracy nor disgusting propaganda, only if the right does it is.


by steamraise P

The KKK's motto was literally "America First," a phrase Trump and his followers have adopted as their own and used throughout his political career.

LOL. Do you know that nazi's often start a speech by saying hello and thanking the crowd for coming? You know who else does that? The evil republicans!!!

Did you know that skinheads make the "ok" hand gesture sign to say they hate black people? You know who else use(d) the "ok" sign? Republicans and every kid growing up in the 90s... RACISTS!


by bahbahmickey P

LOL. Do you know that nazi's often start a speech by saying hello and thanking the crowd for coming? You know who else does that? The evil republicans!!!

Did you know that skinheads make the "ok" hand gesture sign to say they hate black people? You know who else use(d) the "ok" sign? Republicans and every kid growing up in the 90s... RACISTS!

Ooh, I like this game, can I play? You know who uses Nazi iconography in their merchandise? That's right, Republicans.



by housenuts P

Harris to propose “federal ban on corporate price-gouging” on groceries and “impose stiff penalties in the food industry,” campaign announces.

Communism starting to come to reality.

This reads like a grade school kid running for class president promising to replace water fountains with Gatorade fountains.

Not only is blaming recent inflation on price gouging incredible stupid, but grocery stores are likely the last place in the world you would see price gouging considering it is one of the lowest margins and most competitive businesses in the world.

by PointlessWords P

a) if you support our economy you support a welfare state

If you suport our government you support a welfare state.


by d2_e4 P

Ooh, I like this game, can I play? You know who uses Nazi iconography in their merchandise? That's right, Republicans.

You know who uses socialist authoritarianism (borderline communism) in their campaign? That's right, Democrats.



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