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Huh? You're the one who'd be unhappy if fewer people died
RT no offense but you have a 1st grader's understanding of US automaker jobs
I mean, some offense right?
As an Iranian as soon as I heard Raisi’s copter went down and disappeared I immediately went to bevmo and bought a $300 bottle of champagne
It’s sitting on my counter and has to explain to wife that I’m popping it when I find out Raisi‘s dead
She’s white. It’s a confusing convo. I stand by it
no jeers! dark brandon represent!
I have no opinion on biden but man that pic is big palpatine energy
He promises to give these emergency powers back after this war is over. Don't worry
someone add this to the list of Biden wins
The bottle is popped
brandon still making up atrocities in an attempt to justify his genocide, downright ****ing bizarre
dems actually seem to be doing well in these senate races etc, but might lose the presidency because of how much everyone hates this lying senile sack of ****
ya I posted about that in politics forum. its just infuriating. I dunno maybe he was shown some AI photo.
incidentally, this was hte response
it's literally trump ****, there is no difference
literally exactly what I thought when I read it. and posted in the thread!
bc again, he has done the same thing every few weeks for months now. so much that Wapo even nailed his team on it in Dec and they were like oh ya well he didnt mean it.
I am kinda buying into the conspiracy theory that he just got shown some AI image where the hand has like 8 fingers meshed into a kerosene bottle and he cant tell the pixels or whatever.
think it's most likely that he's just an ******* who wants to do zionist propaganda and knows he can get away with it because the lib msm will just make excuses for his lies. they run his lies as the headline, and the correction that he just pulled a bunch of **** out of his ass on page 893457789. exact same deal as trump
lol victor got banned for nothing, now that forum is entirely mentally-ill nazis*. normal world
* - containment is literally its only value
FREE VICTOR
Dude is the reason why I post here
He was like hey 50 bucks to whoever ids this player and I was like Spudd Webb and he shipped me 50.
https://theintercept.com/2024/05/21/demo...
ONE IN 5 Democrats and independents in Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota say that President Joe Biden’s handling of the war in Gaza is making it less likely that they will vote for him in November, according to a new poll released on Tuesday. Two in 5 of those same respondents said an immediate and permanent ceasefire and conditioning of aid to Israel would make them more likely to vote for him.
[...] Around three-quarters of respondents identified as Biden supporters, while one-quarter said they supported either Donald Trump or a third party or write-in candidate. According to the poll, coming just about five months before the general election, some 30-40 percent of non-Biden voters in each battleground state said a ceasefire and conditioning of aid would make them more likely to vote for the incumbent.
In each of the five states, some three-quarters of respondents support an immediate and permanent ceasefire. The number was highest notably in Pennsylvania, home to Democratic Sen. John Fetterman, who has been one of Israel’s most vocal supporters in Congress. Almost 83 percent of respondents from Pennsylvania said they supported a ceasefire, and 24.2 percent said they were less likely to vote for Biden given his current handling of the war on Gaza. The state as well was host to the highest share of voters who said a ceasefire and conditioning of aid would make them more likely to vote for Biden: 48.2 percent.
“Pennsylvanians, like folks across the country, are horrified by the continued violence being perpetrated by the Israeli government in Gaza and the West Bank, and want to see their leaders fight back against having our taxpayers dollars fund more death and destruction,” said Rep. Summer Lee, D-Pa., who recently won a primary election despite facing a well-funded challenge over her criticism of Israel. “We must listen to them.”
In 2020, Biden won several of the aforementioned battleground states by extremely narrow margins: 11,779 votes in Georgia; 10,457 in Arizona; and 20,682 in Wisconsin. Primary voters in several of the polled states have voted “uncommitted” (or an analogous option) in protest of Biden’s handling of the war: in Minnesota, 18.9 percent of voters chose to do so; in Michigan, 13.21 percent.
The president has little room for error in his rematch against Trump, though he has continued to struggle in the polls, hindered by weakening support among young and nonwhite voters reacting to both the economy and Gaza.
Recent polls from the New York Times and Siena College found the president trailing in several battleground states — including Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Michigan, as well as Georgia and Nevada.
[...] In all five states polled, respondents had net-positive support for conditioning aid to Israel — with roughly 55 to 66 percent of voters in support, compared to some 15 to 20 percent against. Meanwhile, each state also had net-positive support for the wave of student Gaza solidarity encampments that have swept campuses across the country — with roughly 50 percent of respondents in support, compared to roughly 30 percent opposed.
[...] Biden has shown little interest in materially ending his support for Israel’s war or confronting Israel’s right-wing government even while it accepts billions of U.S. public dollars. While Biden admitted that Israel has used American weapons to kill Palestinian civilians [...] Indeed, just days after the State Department released a long-awaited report that essentially let Israel off the hook for “likely” violating international law using U.S.-supplied weapons, the Biden administration announced that it would advance another $1 billion of weapons to Israel.
kool pole and stuff but genoicide joe would way rather lose than ever stop genociding brown ppl
Free our boy, he ain't do nothing
There have been so many opportunities for Kennedy. Gaza is just one, but its a big one. If he woulda been strong calling for peace, for a cease fire he woulda been a real candidate. I mean when he first jumped in he said some interesting things like getting wall street out of housing market, but then nothing... just nothing of any substance. JFK woulda had a vision and been inspiring people. I don't like Biden or Trump and….. RFK is just a disappointing.
Lol RFK isn't a real candidate. He's funded by GOP mega-donors in order to hopefully funnel votes away from Biden back when the assumption was "Well, obviously people will pick Biden, but maybe a less-old option with a familiar name would hurt him??".
Bobby Brainworms is just hanging on out of self-interest and because eh, it beats workin'
Edit: Jesus, as if I would've needed proof, Bobby is an ape LOLOLOLOLOL (He's obv just grifting, but still)
hey check out this soulless demon sack of ****
Free Victor! I want him online and very much so!
brandon would literally rather build a pier to nowhere than give americans healthcare, or anything else