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Did Vic get perma’d? Absurd if so
nah, he got a month because the nazi mods* over in the bad place hate him. still quite ridiculous, considering everyone else gets something between an honour system temp ban and a 1-day actual ban afaict**
* - crossnerd seems cool so far
** - this post is satire
brandon now gonna say that actually he doesn't care about the rules-based international order, or his previous statements about wanting a ceasefire, or that invading rafah is a red line, etc etc etc. usa#1's rules-based intl order = they and israel can genocide who they want
perhaps they should have planned ahead about this whole thing say back in october...
alledgedly in response to a supposed hamas attack (reports say 8 rockets were fired, intercepted, and no damage was caused):
[QUOTE=axios]
Israeli airstrike kills dozens in Rafah tent camp
This is the deadliest incident in Rafah since Israel began its offensive in the city in early May. It took place just days after the International Court of Justice ordered Israel to immediately halt military operations in Rafah.[/QUOTE]
and attacking rafah was a genocide joe "red line" as of a couple weeks ago, which is now gone as israel crossed it. like all the others. there are no red lines, israel can do whatever they want
reports suggest that they targeted 10 displacement centers (refugee camps), in a "safe" zone that they told people to go to. this has happened many times since october. the message is clear; nowhere is safe
and remember how genocide joe was trying to act like he was doing something while not actually doing anything, so he did the absolute least by *temporarily delaying* a shipment of those 2000-lb american bombs that israel didn't need right now anyway, because they're generally used to level city blocks and israel was planning to invade (and it's unlikely that their stocks were depleted to begin with)? remember those? anyway reports say that israel dropped a bunch of those 2000-lb american bombs on war refugees in tents sheltering near a unrwa facility. israel also says that some hamas leaders were there and that's who they were targeting (they always say that), but regardless it's a war crime to target individuals with these kind of massive weapons in a such crowded area. but it's obviously all bullshit anyway, it's clearly a psychotic act of revenge intended to kill as many people as possible. why not? genocide joe has granted them total impunity
related:
Knesset to hold preliminary vote designating The United Nations Relief and Works Agency a terror organization
“Without a shadow of a doubt, the UNRWA agency proved on October 7 that it is a terrorist organization that is no different from the terrorist organization Hamas."
almost certainly no basis in reality, but rather retaliation for the actions of the icc & icj, and un as a whole etc for doing aid work, which they also oppose as they're trying to starve the gaza strip. anyway genocide joe will continue doing nothing but offer his full and unqualified support to israel's genocide. he likes it, thinks they're doing a great job. and actually it seems like brandon's next move will be to help them go after the icc & icj with sanctions and stuff, good times. #vbnmw #lesserevilismftw
Well at least nutty yahoo is really really sorry about it
yeah i'm sure he's absolutely beside himself, like with all the whoopsies that "accidentally" killed a bunch of civilians
Biden needs to stop the funding because THAT'S WHAT YOUR BASE WANTS.
So annoying when politicians will throw away the future by abiding to their outdated beliefs.
Joke.
But the Trump verdict might be in this week and that's exciting.
I'm predicting hung jury. There's gotta be 1 Trump 4 Lifer juror who thinks he's saving America by ignoring all the evidence against Trump.
lol genocide joe don't give a **** what the base wants
anyway, here's 90 minutes of yup:
(i assume, i'm only 20 minutes in rn)
Predicting a hung jury cuz there will be at least one person who is scared to ****ing death of being made and having to spend their life getting threats daily from these lunatics
And I can’t even say I blame them. They didn’t sign up for that
There's gotta be 1 Trump 4 Lifer juror who thinks he's saving America by ignoring all the evidence against Trump.
i would assume so, yes. more than 1, actually
ok got to the end where he was talking about the intl reaction and apparently italy criticized israel for the first time in this entire thing over this atrocity. i saw the macron one earlier, which yeah is wild considering he doesn't seem to care about anything as much as hating muslims. and even useless wet sock probably-future-uk-pm keir daily starmer said "stop". and turkey. and also germany? who haven't done anything besides arresting jews for protesting israel throughout. seems like a sea change, hopefully it continues. of course it pales in comparison to shithead joe brandon doing anything, which he probably won't. have they said anything in the last few days? if so, i haven't seen it
damn vini's boy secular kyle has 1.2m subs on yt, who knew
anyway, hot fire from rashida lfg
oops he did it again. must feel really really really really sorry now about yet another "tragic accident"
tanks into rafah, israel popping off at egypt ... has the white said literally anything in the last 5 days or so? has anyone seen genocide joe lately? *tapping mic* is this thing on?
brandon would literally rather build a pier to nowhere than give americans healthcare, or anything else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciVYC2pN...
rip the $320,000,000 pier, gone too soon :(
may 2024-may 2024
(also 1 troop was seriously injured, is in critical condition)
but hey, it's all a small price to pay to pretend like you aren't helping israel starve gaza to death
https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/new...
They dropping **** bombs!
That's evil but hilarious.
Also when are we getting the Trump verdict.
no choice but to declare a truce with kyrie i guess. unsurprised by jaylen brown, pedro pascal, aaron paul and many of the others, who have always been cool
What’s demoralizing is there’s no way out no matter who is president. Sloppy Joe (how did Sleepy Joe get coined but not that?) is just gonna golly gee shucks his way into endless death. Nikki Haley is out there in Israel signing missiles with ‘kill them all’ or something to that effect. And lo-****ing-l at the idea that Donald ****ing trump is going to save brown people from indiscriminate genocide
Waaf
Biden is basically the human embodiment of that pointless ‘love lives here’ sign your neighbor put in their front lawn to pretend they care
peace might be possible idk. supposedly they recently reached another agreement that hamas accepted, usa#1 accepted, but israel vetoed at the last minute. this breaking points video covers the negotiations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKZzXN7M...
(the back half is the relevant part, it's only like 5 minutes)
sounds like this is only for a temporary ceasefire though, because israel refuses to accept a permanent one. plus today israel said they want to drag this out until at least december, for obvious reasons...
4. israel hates the dems and want trump in power, so i'd be stunned if this ended before november
at this point israel, and especially netanyahu, seem like the biggest obstacles to peace. can they not do anything about that?? keep the pressure on i guess...
at this point israel, and especially netanyahu, seem like the biggest obstacles to peace. can they not do anything about that?? keep the pressure on i guess...
I mean...no ****?
The Isreali Defense Minister's wiki page is insane:
Ben Gvir, who is a settler in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, has called for the expulsion of Arab citizens of Israel who are not loyal to Israel and has faced criminal charges of hate speech against Arabs. He is "widely known for his openly racist, anti-Arab views and activities".Ben Gvir was also previously convicted of supporting Kach, classified by Israel as a terrorist group, which espoused Kahanism, an anti-Arab and religious Zionist ideology. In the 1990s, he protested against the Oslo Accords and was seen brandishing a Cadillac hood ornament stolen from Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's car, who was later assassinated. Ben Gvir was known to have a portrait in his living room of Baruch Goldstein, a Jewish extremist and Israeli-American mass murderer who massacred 29 Palestinian Muslim worshipers and wounded 125 others in the 1994 Cave of the Patriarchs massacre in Hebron. He removed the portrait after he entered politics. In 2007, Ben Gvir was found guilty in an Israeli court of inciting support to a racist terrorist organization.
When he came of age for conscription into the Israel Defense Forces at 18, he was exempted from service by the IDF due to his extreme-right political background
In the 1990s, he was active in protests against the Oslo Accords. In 1995, Ben-Gvir came to public attention for the first time, when he appeared on television brandishing a Cadillac hood ornament that had been stolen from Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's car, and declared: "We got to his car, and we'll get to him too." Several weeks later, Rabin was assassinated by right-wing extremist Yigal Amir.
In August 2023 he stated "My right, and my wife's and my children's right, to get around on the roads in Judea and Samaria is more important than the right to movement for Arabs".
In November 2023 he declared that "when they say that Hamas needs to be eliminated, it also means those who sing, those who support and those who distribute candy, all of these are terrorists." On 1 January 2024, Ben-Gvir said that the war with Hamas presented an "opportunity to concentrate on encouraging the migration of the residents of Gaza."[65] He has stated that "We cannot withdraw from any territory we are in in the Gaza Strip. Not only do I not rule out Jewish settlement there, I believe it is also an important thing".On the day a number of European countries recognised a Palestinian state, Ben-Gvir entered the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound and said "We will not allow any surrender that would even include a declaration of a Palestinian state" and that the mosque site belongs "only to the State of Israel".
Bibi's government isn't exactly subtle.
ok scratch my last post, maybe peace isn't possible after all
also it might warm the heart to know that reportedly morning joe is one of the only "left" things that genocide joe considers to ensure that his ideological bases are covered, supposedly loves that show like trump loves foxnews 👍👍
https://theintercept.com/2024/05/30/bide...
WHY DOES Joe Biden insist on pursuing a foreign policy of blind support of Israel’s war on Gaza? In addition to the moral calamity — on full display as Israel bombed Palestinian refugee camps in Gaza — it has also exacted a political cost, damaging his relationship with his base and swing state voters. Critics have attributed Biden’s disastrous handling of the war to incompetence or his lifelong Zionism.
What is really at the center of the administration’s policy, however, is an insidious geopolitical play that will make the world a more dangerous place, advancing U.S. imperial interests under the guise of a diplomatic deal.
Biden wants to tie the U.S. to one of the most abhorrent regimes in the world for decades to come, striking a far-reaching security deal with Saudi Arabia — an agreement that would put American lives on the line to protect the Saudi dictatorship and lock us into a new cold war. And Biden’s big plan for peace in the Middle East is straight out of Donald Trump’s playbook.
After going all-in on Israel’s genocidal campaign, the Biden administration is doing everything it can to ram through the Saudi deal, hoping that solving the Gaza crisis can score a win heading into the election.
As part of the deal, the U.S. would commit to militarily defending Saudi Arabia, a repressive dictatorship that has been a destructive force in the region for years.
Biden’s team has long considered a deal with Saudi Arabia to be a cornerstone of Washington’s broader Middle East strategy. The pact would build directly on the Trump administration’s Abraham Accords — a set of Israeli normalization agreements with the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain — but offer something those deals didn’t: the security guarantee.
[...] it’s no secret that Biden’s push for a Saudi deal is largely about escalating its proxy war against Iran and “great power competition” with China.
With the election closing in, few influential Democrats are willing to intervene when Biden is so desperate for a win in the region. Fewer still will say what everyone knows about the Saudi pact: It’s just a bad deal.
The push to place American military might between Saudi Arabia and its enemies is a stark reversal. When he ran for president, Biden vowed to make the country a “pariah” for its rights violations and halt weapons sales.
Instead, the defense pact with Saudi Arabia would mean sacrificing American blood and treasure to protect a government best known in recent years for its assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and its brutal war in Yemen.
[...] “This progress will in turn allow for Israel to normalize its relationship with Saudi Arabia and more comprehensively integrate itself into the region,” Mouton wrote, alluding to the ability to “fully unlock US arms sales to Saudi Arabia.”
[...] In addition to the security guarantee, the U.S. is reportedly considering supporting a Saudi civil nuclear program and offering access to advanced U.S. weapons that were previously off-limits.
[...] Even MAGA Republicans have reason to oppose a Saudi deal: It goes even further than their president’s deals in sacrificing U.S. interests. Trump’s Abraham Accords between UAE, Bahrain, and Israel may have shored up those monarchies’ dictatorship, but they did not so overtly subsume U.S. security to a foreign country’s interests.
big election year "win" is a peace deal for genocidal apartheid pariah state israel with the guys who literally did 9/11, it has never been more joever...
In March 2023, Semafor launched its "China and Global Business Initiative," a collaboration with the Center for China and Globalization (CCG), a think tank registered as a non-governmental organization, though its independence from the Chinese Communist Party has been disputed.
Cool.
In other news, we apparently have a verdict
They just keep saying Guilty
i mean in the video they said that poll and whatever was commissioned by the dem party. also there was the segment about the similar wapo polling. are they both secretly controlled by COMMUNIST CHINA? do you think they're inventing this idea that young ppl have negative opinions about usa#1, the world, the future, etc? (basically everything)
