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Ive posted more detailed posts in the last few months but I play exclusively 500nl reg tables and the bot/colluders are out of control. I've reported blatantly obvious hands at least a dozen times and they still here doing the most obvious ****. Bonition is outright incompetent or they in on it and def think its the former. Hmm what's that...just an aggressive reg calling a BTN 2.5x in the SB with JJ to have BB small squeeze. Standard stuff
Yeah it's incredibly how unorganic you get it in vs them preflop when they got JJ+. Like it's never like they open, 4bet and you shove on them and they call.. It's always like one of them open, you 3bet one coldcall other one 4bets or just to have one of them back4bet you. I've also had them jam aces on me couple of times which isn't a super normal human/reggy move.
What do you guys think about this? I have player 4 and 5 tagged with my colluding player tag.
Table Info: Version: 1, Type: MVS, Stakes: $2.50-$5, Table: *******
Seat 1: UTG+1 ($402.13 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG+2 ($167.50 in chips)
Seat 4: UTG+3 ($482.06 in chips)
Seat 5: Dealer ($692.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Small Blind ($505.63 in chips)
Seat 7: Big Blind [ME] ******
Seat 9: UTG ($353.34 in chips)
Dealer : Set dealer [5]
Player Info: Seat1: P1-fc91b3ab9f1fa3cc0b3caf62cc0f7c04, Seat3: P3-996ed58ee1612b6337b4a9d7460c9f95, Seat4: P4-1254c8c9494ea6c1930f135ffe87a4d6, Seat5: P5-32fd31a7c586b3f9ba2eecc0a7484719, Seat6: P6-187ea514a1a99e41ce90b4cb999ac14f, Seat9: P9-2e313447d55416d9f2bf63f7bf98b8a0
Small Blind : Small Blind $2.50
Big Blind [ME] : Big Blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
UTG+3 : Card dealt to a spot [Ah 2h]
Dealer : Card dealt to a spot [8h 6c]
Big Blind [ME] : Card dealt to a spot [9h As]
UTG : Folds
UTG+1 : Calls $5
UTG+2 : Folds
UTG+3 : Calls $5
Dealer : Raises $22.50 to $22.50
Small Blind : Folds
Big Blind [ME] : Folds
UTG+1 : Calls $17.50
UTG+3 : Raises $115 to $120
Dealer : Calls $97.50
UTG+1 : Folds
*** FLOP *** [7c Qh 6s]
UTG+3 : All-in $362.06
Dealer : Calls $362.06
Player 8 : Table enter user
Player 8 : Seat sit down
Player 8 : Table deposit $150
*** TURN *** [7c Qh 6s] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [7c Qh 6s 3s] [Ac]
UTG+3 : Showdown [Ah Ac Qh 7c 6s]
Dealer : Showdown [6s 6c Ac Qh 8h]
UTG+3 : Hand result $990.12
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($994.12)
Board [7c Qh 6s 3s Ac]
Seat+1: UTG+1 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+3: UTG+2 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+4: UTG+3 $990.12 with [Ah 2h-Ah Ac Qh 7c 6s]
Seat+5: Dealer lost with [8h 6c-6s 6c Ac Qh 8h]
Seat+6: Small Blind Folded before the FLOP
Seat+7: Big Blind [ME] Folded before the FLOP
Seat+9: UTG Folded before the FLOP
[QUOTE=Gemaco;58416549]What do you guys think about this? I have player 4 and 5 tagged with my colluding player tag.
Player 5 has reg stats 26/20/20 and had insta rebuy on - is there any justification for calling that all in on the flop? Maybe it is just over my head...
Same 2 people, same thing. One limps or over limps, another makes it 22.50, then a backraise to squeeze all the money out of the pot
Table Info: Version: 1, Type: MVS, Stakes: $2.50-$5, Table: 000F08DA-0
Seat 1: UTG+3 ($342.75 in chips)
Seat 2: UTG+4 ($1,167.89 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG+5 ($289.18 in chips)
Seat 4: Dealer ($1,915.08 in chips)
Seat 5: Small Blind ($480 in chips)
Seat 6: Big Blind ($500 in chips)
Seat 7: UTG ($112.50 in chips)
Seat 8: UTG+1 [ME]
Seat 9: UTG+2 ($454.93 in chips)
Dealer : Set dealer [4]
Player Info: Seat1: P1-2e58fb5075cf6765a9c25fe9555d68a7, Seat2: P2-a2b399dae836438fbf2c49e756d09436, Seat3: P3-a222c2264ad2e40441e8e41d6daf8c33, Seat4: P4-5c4c2d784276226ba480f9fe9be21642, Seat5: P5-7f8a72ab67c2f6d3532fec04ab5ccaa0, Seat6: P6-e320821b771e5f478a28e234fb954950, Seat7: P7-6912591673db59a56a2f671b25a20307, Seat9: P9-ed868e048c554a2ea45a7cfffd7667e6
Small Blind : Small Blind $2.50
Big Blind : Big Blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
UTG+5 : Card dealt to a spot [2h 2s]
Small Blind : Card dealt to a spot [6h 6s]
UTG+1 [ME] : Card dealt to a spot [3h Jc]
UTG : Folds
UTG+1 [ME] : Folds
UTG+2 : Folds
UTG+3 : Calls $5
UTG+4 : Folds
UTG+5 : Calls $5
Dealer : Calls $5
Small Blind : Raises $20 to $22.50
Big Blind : Calls $17.50
UTG+3 : Calls $17.50
UTG+5 : Calls $17.50
Dealer : Raises $110 to $115
Small Blind : All-in(raise) $457.50 to $480
Big Blind : Folds
UTG+3 : Folds
Big Blind : Table deposit $22.50
UTG+5 : All-in $266.68
Dealer : Folds
Small Blind : Return uncalled portion of bet $190.82
*** FLOP *** [Qc 8d Td]
*** TURN *** [Qc 8d Td] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [Qc 8d Td Kd] [9h]
UTG+5 : Showdown [2s 2h Kd Qc Td]
Small Blind : Showdown [6s 6h Kd Qc Td]
Small Blind : Hand result $734.36
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($738.36)
Board [Qc 8d Td Kd 9h]
Seat+1: UTG+3 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+2: UTG+4 Folded before the FLOP
Seat+3: UTG+5 lost with [2h 2s-2s 2h Kd Qc Td]
Seat+4: Dealer Folded before the FLOP
Seat+5: Small Blind $734.36 with [6h 6s-6s 6h Kd Qc Td]
Seat+6: Big Blind Folded before the FLOP
Seat+7: UTG Folded before the FLOP
Seat+8: UTG+1 [ME] Folded before the FLOP
Seat+9: UTG+2 Folded before the FLOP
3 players with reg stats, 2 cold calling the MP 3 bet of UTG and probably manipulating positions to apply maximum pressure on river.
I sat out table previously since P1 and p6 were playing kinda weird/in a lot of pots with each other. unfortunately I was moved from table directly after and didn't get the hh number or the raw hh data (i don't think?)
Am trying to think what a legitimate reg in P1's position would cc pre and bet/call river here if they were not colluding, but can't think of much. Fun games, fun variance.
just gotta call these mother****ers down, when you're right you win 2 stacks
so many of these HH daily
Not like they do much these days but are you guys atleast reporting these HH'S? Only thing ive ever been refunded for by them(know im playing against bots) was collusion and that was ages ago but would get refunded semi frequently. Think they never have cared about catching/stopping botters but if they're not even going after colluders anymore or are just too incompetent to catch them then it's a free for all on there. Crypto is obviously been great for people getting money on and off and not having to worry bout their banks but i don't think them offering player to player transfers was a good idea
Not like they do much these days but are you guys atleast reporting these HH'S? Only thing ive ever been refunded for by them(know im playing against bots) was collusion and that was ages ago but would get refunded semi frequently. Think they never have cared about catching/stopping botters but if they're not even going after colluders anymore or are just too incompetent to catch them then it's a free for all on there. Crypto is obviously b
Yeah i reached out to them but nothing of substance in reply yet. I also reached out to their site ambassador but also crickets from him.
Played on Ignition last year and I think the competition is more interesting than any site with a European/S.American/Etc..(I don't think Uzbekistan or Luxembourg has recs) on it. A guy sucked on out on me for a $500 pot with 3 outer on the river then I just couldn't be bothered to play another hand but I would again there is nothing more juicy than someone that would do that and I don't usually see that from sober players outside of the USA.
Not sure that the site cares about bots colluders. Not sure how many are there or professionals or stables or any other things but if the last time I was on there I got the 2005-2009 feeling still more than on other sites available to us Americans. Will it last:
Probably not, anything that was good is not going to be good for long. The micros are probably just fine if you enjoy to have 'some fun'...
definitely lost way more during the day to these colluders but this was a highlight.
quite incredible how little they are trying to hide what they're doing.
3 players with reg stats, 2 cold calling the MP 3 bet of UTG and probably manipulating positions to apply maximum pressure on river.
I sat out table previously since P1 and p6 were playing kinda weird/in a lot of pots with each other. unfortunately I was moved from table directly after and didn't get the hh number or the raw hh data (i don't think?)
Am trying to think what a legitimate reg in P1's position would cc pre and bet/call river her
well KJo is a very very bad hand to CC a 3bet even if these guys are colluding, also player 6 doesn't represent anything on the river, even sets should protect their hand on flop or turn but still it was a weird river move, i think if they are colluding they are probably very very bad regs.
definitely lost way more during the day to these colluders but this was a highlight.
quite incredible how little they are trying to hide what they're doing.
same, i don't understand how overlimping Q8o its going to be profitable even if they are sharing hands against a professional player or am i wrong?
Clearly paranoia is starting to set in.
Guys, you are being delusional if you think it's nothing more than paranoia. Every semi reputable high stakes player on the site is saying the same thing, these spots aren't even close to being paranoia, hand strength is possibly not even super important in their strategy. They are probably close to +ev calling almost any 2 cards pre and applying positional pressure post flop. It just always helps when they also have blockers etc.
[QUOTE='Darki[Per];58419449']same, i don't understand how overlimping Q8o its going to be profitable even if they are sharing hands against a professional player or am i wrong?[/QUOTE]
the current form of collusion on ignition is mainly coming from pressuring people out of pots with over calls/multi way pressure rather than blockers. It’s a significantly more efficient way of cheating than say something like using rta as an individual.
as ponty said, if you’re still burying your head in the sand about what’s going on on ignition, you’re very much in denial
I have emailed Iggy support again with HH and also linked this thread.
The best thing we can all do is just smash support with hand histories asking them to do something. The key to getting a result is not hiding behind the keyboard but reaching out to them.
Anybody is welcome to send me HH to forward if they don’t have a legit account to contact support
The irony of a dude from London, England who is presumably playing on a VPN complaining about collusion/teams is LOL
11/10 shamlessness
no doubt he loves Australia but he also lives there I’m pretty sure
Well perhaps he did, but all of his lads knew about this site and asked me questions when I played with a bunch of them at the Hippodrome / Pokerstars casino in London back in 2015 lol
Well perhaps he did, but all of his lads knew about this site and asked me questions when I played with a bunch of them at the Hippodrome / Pokerstars casino in London back in 2015 lol
Oof, ok you've edited your post. I mean, what pro player didn't know about bonition or its reputation back then? or talk about it? I can confirm that Ben currently loves in Australia and is not VPN'ing.
How is it that every other page there is some nutjob posting some non sense. One could almost think you are part of the bot group and want to stear away attention from it.
I have sent infinite emails to support but never got a non automated response. Got plenty of hands if someone works out a solution
