POG Politics Thread Version 3
Come on in! Since Dustin is taking his ball and going home, it's time to start a new politics thread.
it's weird cuz generally i love accents. i love when people pronounce words differently, and speak differently. but idk.. something about your name seems different. like "no that's not my name. you're not saying what i told you my name is. you're saying a different word"
also i think it would bother me less if the dominant culture pronounced my name right, and it was just rarely mispronounced.
another weird thing about that is "san francisco
sawn frawn cease co?
the yahi tribe from so called northern california... in their culture it was insane to tell someone your name unless you knew them really well. names are powerful. and intimate. and you don't just go around telling anyone your name!
i often felt that way a little when meeting strangers.
My partner is like this. She doesn't share photos with people and tells people her name is 'Ice' when asked by a stranger.
The t thing is real. In international phonetics, the Spanish t and the English t are different symbols bc they’re formed differently in the mouth- the English t is formed by the tongue touching the hard palette and the Spanish t is formed by the tongue touching the teeth, with different aspirations. This was a super interesting tangent we went on in conservatory… Anyway, filthy I can pronounce your name correctly ♥
Interesting. I'm going to try and be more aware of this when pronouncing Spanish words.
Interesting related tidbit that I happen to know...Lithuanians do not have a typical 'th' sound in their language. Every time you say Lithuania to a Lithuanian, you are quite literally "nails on chalkboard"ing them. If you just remove the h, it's closer to how they would pronounce it, but in the language there is no 'th': Lietuva -> Lietuania -> Lithuania. I swear English just be trolling sometimes (there's literally an 'sp' in the word lisp 😃)
Fred Armisen's character in Parks n Rec is my new mental image of filthy
I generally just say things in a borish american way rather than try to mimic native speakers way of saying things, though it's a matter of degree of course.
I remember one german teacher telling me to not mimic some german dialect because it would be like some foreigner coming here and talking like a southerner.
In this example I would do the 'saw' part but not the 'th' part.
Also I fell like the th thing is regional?
I just say Frisco now. Versailles Kentucky is pronounced borrishly American.
exactly!
My partner is like this. She doesn't share photos with people and tells people her name is 'Ice' when asked by a stranger.
i love it! and ice is a great answer. i love how people just started naming themselves whatever they liked with the internet and usernames. like i met a bunch of people irl from 2p2 and everyone called each other by their usernames. and it was great! there was so much more diversity. and people were being called by names they preferred, instead of just something chosen for them when they were a baby, and from a pretty limited pool of words.
Interesting. I'm going to try and be more aware of this when pronouncing Spanish words.
Interesting related tidbit that I happen to know...Lithuanians do not have a typical 'th' sound in their language. Every time you say Lithuania to a Lithuanian, you are quite literally "nails on chalkboard"ing them. If you just remove the h, it's closer to how they would pronounce it, but in the language there is no 'th': Lietuva -> Lietuania -> Lithuania
it's fun when you learn other languages, and find out how people pronounce the names of their own countries properly, and also how they say the names of other countries. some of them are incredibly disrespectful. like how can you be so lazy and lame to not even make the slightest effort to say the name right? like japan. it's called knee hone(i think lol). i'm not sure how to say it, but it sounds nothing like japan.
or mexico might be a better example. cuz we can all say meh ee co. it's not hard! but we are so lazy and disrespectful we just say mexico lol... which also is just a name that genocidal thieves gave the place.
and who knows how tf we got germany from doitchland
it's like one time i got a job in ohio in the 80s, and the manager asked if he could just put "sam" on my name tag cuz it was easier to say lol
Fred Armisen's character in Parks n Rec is my new mental image of filthy
Broken YouTube Linklol... im not sure if this is the intention of the clip, but to me the funniest part about this is it's the usa who puts everyone in jail. way more than any other country
ooooh frisco is really bad. at least it was for all my time in SF, from the 70s to when i left in 2017. but things changed there so much, maybe it's ok now lol... but to natives like me, frisco is terrible. it hurts our ears.
and how do they say versailles kentucky? ver sales?
i like the name filthy. it'll probably be forever my 2p2 name. but irl people call me buffy now. that's the name i love. sometimes they call me buff for short, which i like too
yes ver sales more or less
I played family feud on nes growing up and sometimes an answer was Frisco (because san fransisco was too long to fit) and i never understood what the hell it meant then in like 2008 in an episode of monk the fbi guy calls it that and the local commisioner hates it. That's how I learned.
I really like the name Zach.
ok i just had a mind altering insight. and my mind is altered af right now. 1ppm wednedsay so of course! anywway whatever...
ok so! like the uber rich want the workers to have a safe, efficient, reliable means of transportation, right? cuz then they can get to work better.
BUT the petit bourgousiewhatever want to sell cars!!!! and make money
so the uber rich have to decide... give the peasants good public transportation? or give our buffer class a bone, and let them sell cars... "i don't care. i can't be bothered. let them sort it out. Antoine! come hither and suck my toes"
so the bourgewhatever are stronger than the peasant class. so they win. they get to sell cars and destroy public transportation
Filthy, I watched an interesting video recently where a linguist was comparing the difference between mimicking speech patterns in a foreign language vs trying to imitate accent. I don't think he really answered anything related to ethics of this, but I got the impression that it's not offensive to try and use similar speech patterns, but overly exaggerating an accent could be.
Filthy, I watched an interesting video recently where a linguist was comparing the difference between mimicking speech patterns in a foreign language vs trying to imitate accent. I don't think he really answered anything related to ethics of this, but I got the impression that it's not offensive to try and use similar speech patterns, but overly exaggerating an accent could be.
linguistics is surprisingly interesting to me lol
noam chomsky thinks we evolved language to communicate with ourselves!!! lol! like not so much talking to each other.
cuz he says your vast majority use of language is in your own thoughts, like inner monologue. it's how you plan things out, and navigate your way through the world.
really? cuz like say if i was king filthy of filthyland, and i gave all my subjects good public transportation, then filthyland would thrive, and i'd be richer king filthy.
meanwhile king birdman in birdmanland didn't bother to give his subjects public transportation, they wouldn't be as efficient or productive. and poor king birdman wouldn't be as rich as king filthy
right? or am i missing something?
😊 😆
the tv forum is the one other forum i regularly post in
yes ver sales more or less
I played family feud on nes growing up and sometimes an answer was Frisco (because san fransisco was too long to fit) and i never understood what the hell it meant then in like 2008 in an episode of monk the fbi guy calls it that and the local commisioner hates it. That's how I learned.
Next thing you will try to tell me Athens isn't pronounced Ay-thens
We have that stuff here too.
Our state capital is Mont Peel Yer.
i vaguely remember seeing something about how the (toothless) ICC can come after the assets, and freedom of private citizens who support genocide.
if that's true, does that mean every american who pays taxes is exposed?
I think just existing may qualify someone
