Politics and Society Moderation Discussion Only Fans Thread

Politics and Society Moderation Discussion Only Fans Thread

Hello everyone. I've closed the previous mod thread, and opened this to capture all issues related to moderation policies and actions going forward. I'll kick it off by reposting my intro post from the other thread. Again, I'm happy to be here and look forward to hearing from you.

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Hello everyone.

I'm very pleased to have the opportunity to serve as a moderator in Politics and Society. I asked for this position because I believe we are experiencing a polarization in our politics and society unseen since the 1960s. We may well be at a juncture from which we will either make great progress or suffer great setbacks in regards to our democratic foundations and civil rights over the next few years. So I believe it is important to maintain a forum for discussing these important topics. When the other mods had to step back a bit due to their real life time obligations, I asked to join the mod team to help keep the forum going.

I have not followed this forum in the past, though I have been reading through threads the last few days and made a few posts. This has allowed me to get a sense of the initial impression the forum likely makes on new readers who are deciding if our forum is a place they would like to visit regularly and participate in. While I see some familiar names from the live poker forum, many of you I have not had any interaction with to date. I have no preconceived notions of anyone's posting behavior and will essentially start from a clean slate.

I will shortly post more about my modding approach and give my initial impressions of the forum based on my observations over the last several days. I will be soliciting your input on things you like about the forum that you want to remain, and things you don't like that you would like me to change. Your candid input and feedback is very important to me. Especially, please don't hesitate to let me know if you think a policy or a proposal is a bad idea. I'd rather hear it before it goes into effect than after.

My overall modding principle is simple: Be Nice. Disagreement need not be disrespectful, and everyone must be treated with respect. Calling a poster derogatory names or hurling snarky insults never usefully advances a discussion. It just bogs things down and turns off many would be participants. And it's not nice. Don't do it.

My goal is to have a forum where people with a wide variety of opinions along the political spectrum enjoy expressing and debating their views in a spirited manner, free from insults, bigotry and denigrating comments. If you enjoy discussing these important and often polarizing issues in a passionate, yet respectful manner, I look forward to getting to know you and working with you to create a forum people will enjoy visiting and contributing to. You can be as committed, determined and relentless as you like in advocating for your position. Be persuasive, thought provoking and challenging. But be nice.

I want to thank tame_deuces and King Spew for their support in bringing me onboard and for all the time and effort they have put into making the forum better. While I am taking over most of the day to day modding responsibilities, both are retaining their mod status and superpowers, and will be supporting the forum as their availability permits. And I personally welcome their continued advice and feedback.

Again, I am happy to be here and look forward to getting to know you.

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24 December 2022 at 02:15 AM
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by ecriture d'adulte P

Yet every standardized test we took as kids had Asian as a bubble for race. You guys just can’t go back and forth making these crazy sharp distinctions between race, ethnicity what is and isn’t a racial classification and then also pretend like words have meaning so that there is no context in which Asian as a race is valid. It’s so stupid I think even you are trolling purposely now.

No I'm accurately correcting your erroneous assumptions, that Palestinians, Arabs and Asians are a race. They aren't.


Ok i don't know which post i reported. I must have misremembered


The human excrement known as brutal israeli occupiers
is the closest i could find

Again i shouldn't have rebrought it up I'll move on


by corpus vile P

No I'm accurately correcting your erroneous assumptions, that Palestinians, Arabs and Asians are a race. They aren't.

Asian is recognized by the US federal government as a racial classification. The words have meanings clowns suddenly change their position to something more nuanced when it suits them.

The most recent United States census recognized five racial categories (White, Black, Native American/Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian/Other Pacific Islander), as well as people who belong to two or more of the racial categories.

FYI you atleast changed my mind that your posts were being intentionally stupid to troll.


by Trolly McTrollson P

"Zionist" is technically not a race, so he's in the clear.

why should the ideology that is doing genocide right now be a protected entity?


by browser2920 P

Zionist was nowhere in the reported post insult. Mets added that for dramatic effect. Just another misrepresentation of what actually was said and done.

Dunno if this is the specific reported post but Ossie/Jackie Heil has indeed used Zionist and excrement in the same post.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...

The human excrement known as brutal israeli occupiers have a long history of chemical weapon use on Palestinians.

And the Jews too who support peace.
And reading through this thread, I just got to where you guys banned the Jew for coming on here sharing truth.

There is something drastically wrong with the narrative being pushed regarding everything zionist.

I like how his new account bitches about him being banned due to him pretending to be Jewish and being a neo-Nazi.


by Trolly McTrollson P

"Zionist" is technically not a race, so he's in the clear.

He certainly isn't using it as a dog whistle code for Jews either.


by ecriture d'adulte P

Asian is recognized by the US federal government as a racial classification..


So? That doesn't magically make Asians a race. An Asiatic Russian is not the same race as someone from Japan and Japanese aren't the same race as Indians, but all are regarded as Asian.
So no Asian isn't a race. And neither are Palestinians or Arabs even if you really think they oughta be.


by chillrob P

What language do black people speak?

Bad-faith question, since you know that black people speak a lot of different languages for historical reasons.

If they don't have a defined language, does that mean people biased against others for their skin color are not racist?

Bad-faith question again. When Americans say that a certain group 'isn't a race', they mean that racist language used against that group somehow isn't racist at all and gets a free pass. Arabs are a distinct and identifiable ethnic group and you know this as well as I do and so do the dogs in the street.


i think you guys are all beginning to understand why trolly is best left on ignore


by 57 On Red P

Bad-faith question, since you know that black people speak a lot of different languages for historical reasons.

Bad-faith question again. When Americans say that a certain group 'isn't a race', they mean that racist language used against that group somehow isn't racist at all and gets a free pass. Arabs are a distinct and identifiable ethnic group and you know this as well as I do and so do the dogs in the street.

whoosh


by corpus vile P

So? That doesn't magically make Asians a race. An Asiatic Russian is not the same race as someone from Japan and Japanese aren't the same race as Indians, but all are regarded as Asian.
So no Asian isn't a race. And neither are Palestinians or Arabs even if you really think they oughta be.

Haha. Words have meaning. It’s just that’s there”s wide disagreement based on context and other factors on what those meanings actually are!! As long as low info trolls/mods can make definitive highly simplified declarations when they need to all is good.


Okay mate Asians Palestinians and Arabs are a race. And up is down, black is white and wet is dry...long as you really really feel it. You happy now? 😀


by corpus vile P

Dunno if this is the specific reported post but Ossie/Jackie Heil has indeed used Zionist and excrement in the same post.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...

I like how his new account bitches about him being banned due to him pretending to be Jewish and being a neo-Nazi.


how is he a neo nazi when hes posting rabbies non stop mate?


by corpus vile P

He certainly isn't using it as a dog whistle code for Jews either.

Dog whistles are supposed to be subtle. He’s using a tornado siren.


Ossie has been permabanned as an alias account


I ssked everyone to move the what is race discussion over to the general discussion thread but posts on that keep appearing itt. So any additional posts on that topic itt will be deleted.


Ive asked and pleaded with people to not keep posting off topic stuff itt and warnec repeatedly that they would be deleted. I just deleted the off topic stuff about race, religion and whatever it was washoe was talking about.

Please stop. If you start a post with "this doesnt belong itt but..." then dont put it here. If you are responding to a post that starts that way, dont.

Thanks


by corpus vile P

Okay mate Asians Palestinians and Arabs are a race. And up is down, black is white and wet is dry...long as you really really feel it. You happy now? 😀

Either that or bold declarations about what is and isn’t a race made by people with limited understanding don’t mean much.


by browser2920 P

Ive asked and pleaded with people to not keep posting off topic stuff itt and warnec repeatedly that they would be deleted. I just deleted the off topic stuff about race, religion and whatever it was washoe was talking about.

Please stop. If you start a post with "this doesnt belong itt but..." then dont put it here. If you are responding to a post that starts that way, dont.

Thanks

So i asked you to move it but i needed to respond and you delete it?

Thanks you're the best


by browser2920 P

Ive asked and pleaded with people to not keep posting off topic stuff itt and warnec repeatedly that they would be deleted. I just deleted the off topic stuff about race, religion and whatever it was washoe was talking about.
Thanks

Some people who aren't on this site constantly will reply to a post, then see on the next page that you asked them to take the discussion elsewhere. I just did that myself, and now my post was deleted. I understand your actions, but it would be nice if you could give a bit more time for the warning to result in deletions and maybe for a short time move posts to the right thread instead of deleting them.


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Washoe made stupid comments. I needed to respond

I messaged you and said I'm sorry to respond in that thread but it needs response and can you please move it to Israel thread

And you just delete it all

Very nice. Much appreciated

Youve moved nonsense to the nonsense thread but God forbid i fight back against a guy saying all jews
Should leave Israel. Let's just delete it all

So glad i reached out and glad you are so understanding

Great ****ing job.


by chillrob P

Some people who aren't on this site constantly will reply to a post, then see on the next page that you asked them to take the discussion elsewhere. I just did that myself, and now my post was deleted. I understand your actions, but it would be nice if you could give a bit more time for the warning to result in deletions and maybe for a short time move posts to the right thread instead of deleting them.

Yes i said let's move it to the Israel thread

Even researched answers

Nope. Just 86 it all


by metsandfinsfan P

Yes i said let's move it to the Israel thread

Even researched answers

Nope. Just 86 it all

I think it's possible for them to undelete a post.


yeah i generally have no idea what thread i'm in, just responding to waht i see


So I'm being asked a question in this thread

I say this isn't the wrong thread and respond And even pm browser and say i had to respond can you please move it all to the Israel thread

Why wouldn't he do that

The people saying you might be on a power trip may have had a point i guess


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