2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
I have no clue. Steve King served nine terms in the House of Representatives, so the answer is probably "way too many." But with the exception of Pat Buchanan, I would be hard pressed to identify a major party presidential candidate in the last fifty years who courted white supremacists and racists as openly as Trump did.
Also, being willing to yell something racist on a street corner for a million dollars is quite a bit different than be
The answer ought to be 100% because you could then take that money and donate it to underprivileged people.
I'm willing to say some racist stuff myself for 1 million and I promise to donate 990 thousand of it, if you want to start a GoFundMe.
Enlighten me how the Dems care more about the poor than the GOP
stats NO Fox News or Newsmax sources all lefty
Under Joe Biden 85,000 migrant children are missing
https://www.newsweek.com/under-joe-biden...
80% of women are raped on their journey
Biden administration is currently attempting to restrict Banks use of overdraft fees as well as has gone after junk fees. consumer protection is always FAR stronger under dems than republicans. Trump ran what was widely considered the most anti-consumer protection administration in decades. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/... consumer protection is massively helpful to regular people. being poor is expensive in America thanks a lot to all the junk fees and payday loan companies that lobby republicans and some center dems.
the child tax credit was influential in lifting children out of poverty situations until Manchin(dino) killed it. the dems have been attempting to revive it through senate negotiations.
there are numerous examples you can find if you open your eyes passed the foxnews/newsmax propaganda.
i like that the border "crisis" stuff that republican types use just show that the closed border is what is causing the "problem" that they think is caused by open borders. shady cartels are causing problems with people immigrating BECAUSE we make it so difficult to immigrate and provide a market for it.
Break on student loans .
Inflation reduction act.
Draining of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to lower oil price down .
Etc.
Been told to u many times
Keep not listening ….
lol
inflation reduction act printed more money
spr is both controversial and something every president does... and they'll need to rebuy it later so it's just a bandaid
but as a canuck i forgive you for thinking the student loan thing won him some fans, it's in fact done the opposite
he floated hard that all these tens of millions of people would have their student loans forgiven so hang in tight
as a result many ramped down payments to the minimum, thinking it was dumb to pay off what would get wiped
then it's held up and won't happen, then it will happen but kind of
less than 1% of the people who he told would get that debt forgiven ended up getting it forgiven - it didn't help out anyone who grew up middle class as the only way to qualify was if your parents were on welfare when you went to college
so now there's millions of middle aged middle class americans who weren't just misled and lied to, but also disrupted their financial planning around this event that never fired
student loans fiasco alone could very well cost biden the election
if there weren't already so many flaws of him and dislikable things like stumbling on stage and being called genocidejoe then the student loans fiasco would get a whole lot more attention - it was a massive bait and switch where basically everyone i know thought that was getting wiped with a lot of loud announcements and pomp and circumstance and then quietly learn via whispers that very few actually will get it
The student loan fiasco was 100% caused by Republican interference. Many of whom were on board with fraudulent PPP loans that, shockingly, were forgiven. Most people counting on student loan forgiveness are fully aware of how that all played out.
Just another one of those things that seems like cruelty for cruelty's sake from the Republicans.
Same Trump appointed supreme court that overturned Roe v Wade, same court that almost sided with Texas for basically committing treason. I'm starting to see a pattern here...
meh, student loan thing won't swing anyone come november.
well perhaps you shouldn't promise something that you can't get done, especially when people are going to financially plan around it
well perhaps you shouldn't promise something that you can't get done, especially when people are going to financially plan around it
There was no promise, just an application
I find the comment to be incredibly bad faith. They tried to do something good for many individuals and were ultimately blocked by opposition on grounds of.... cruelty?
**** those *******s for trying to do something good though, amirite?
in case people aren't paying attention.....
GOP was close to having a border deal done and guess who torpedoed it? Wasn't Biden.
The answer ought to be 100% because you could then take that money and donate it to underprivileged people.
I'm willing to say some racist stuff myself for 1 million and I promise to donate 990 thousand of it, if you want to start a GoFundMe.
I was assuming that the $1 million was for personal gain. I think we can safely assume that Trump isn't catering to white supremacists and racists as part of some elaborate plan to donate to charity.
I was assuming that the $1 million was for personal gain. I think we can safely assume that Trump isn't catering to white supremacists and racists as part of some elaborate plan to donate to charity.
I didn't realize we were talking about Trump-- I just saw you say that there was a distinction not worth parsing and so I felt like parsing it for fun.
it was a massive bait and switch where basically everyone i know thought that was getting wiped with a lot of loud announcements and pomp and circumstance and then quietly learn via whispers that very few actually will get it
This is a somewhat disingenuous criticism of Biden. He never signed on to or promised the massive student loan forgiveness program that progressives were pushing for. I honestly don't think that he much enthusiasm for idea. And he seems to have eventually agreed to a half measure mainly to appease the progressive wing of the party.
Trump broke immigration and won't let anyone fix it. The GOP is blaming the nearest Democrat.
If Republicans are truly looking for whom to blame for chaos at the border and beyond, they should look in the mirror.
It’s been almost a decade since the last bipartisan attempt at reform,
and that effort was stymied by Republicans, not Democrats.
House Republicans are still rejecting the idea of a compromise
Republicans want a return to the very Trump-era policies
that artificially built up the pressure at the southern border.
Trump’s agenda created a massive backlog of asylum claims that only began to be relieved under Biden.
More than half of Americans believe that the border “is open and laws are unenforced.”
And, crucially, there’s evidence that this disinformation has actually
spurred more Central American migrants toward the southern border.
c'mon guys, student loan forgiveness was a big promise of his and he's done many tone deaf victory laps on this even after the bait and switch
most people i know, even huge supporters of his, are very upset about how this went down
Trump broke immigration and won't let anyone fix it. The GOP is blaming the nearest Democrat.
If Republicans are truly looking for whom to blame for chaos at the border and beyond, they should look in the mirror.
It’s been almost a decade since the last bipartisan attempt at reform,
and that effort was stymied by Republicans, not Democrats.
House Republicans are still rejecting the idea of a compromise
Republicans want a return to the very Tru
Yeah Yeah the Democrats say we have a comprehensive package for border security but will not release it. The GOP has HR 2 on the table
If Biden wins we could see 20 million migrants crossing the border in his next term and they all will be paying the cartels
Lets not forget Joe Biden I will not build another foot of wall. Oh Oh were losing in Arizona Ok Ill build the wall but I have to
I vote Bloc Québécois u idiot
Stop lying .
Stop speaking stuff u know **** about .
Not because I think trudeau is less an idiot then polievre I automatically vote trudeau .
That is your line of thinking not mine .
Fwiw rococo , that is something happened in dress up party with an Arabian night theme at a school like 25 years ago .
He was more of Maharaja then what lozen try to portrait .
Canada never had a blackface problem , that an American thi
Not true that was a different incident as there were three of them back when nobody had cell phones . When asked if there were others his reply I do not know . Lets add in the sexual assault of a reporter and his Bollywood dressup but you guys give him a pass cause he is a lefty
No one knew what blackface was?
c'mon guys, student loan forgiveness was a big promise of his and he's done many tone deaf victory laps on this even after the bait and switch
He didn't make the promises you're alleging and the people who are mad about lack of student debt relief should probably direct their ire at Republicans who obstructed his relief plan.
lol
inflation reduction act printed more money
spr is both controversial and something every president does... and they'll need to rebuy it later so it's just a bandaid
but as a canuck i forgive you for thinking the student loan thing won him some fans, it's in fact done the opposite
he floated hard that all these tens of millions of people would have their student loans forgiven so hang in tight
as a result many ramped down payments to the mini
- that money printed went into people that needs it for once and if it created inflation how come the inflation gets getting lower for ?
reduction act came into effect august 2022 with inflation at near peak 8.26%.
today where is it exactly ?
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_inflat...
- SPR was just a band aid yes but it did help bring inflation down and help people which is what lozen was asking...
yes they will have to rebuy it but at least they sold the SPR at a VERY good price at that time and they will buy it at a much lower price they sell it !
- the student loan i was referring to have a break in payment , not about an whole forgiveness of the debts.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/01/how-the-...
"The pandemic-era pause on federal student loan payments ends Sunday, leaving as many as 40 million Americans on the hook for a new monthly bill."
But if u really want to speak about forgiving student loans we can do so....
fwiw the fiasco isnt the student loans debt, its the cost of the education system that create the student loan debts to begin with.
But hey u can blame biden all u want for Americans bad mismanagement of their finances...
i know its a new thing that Americans mismanage their money right ?
So yeah i disagree, biden did pass policies that help people in the short time which is actually what government job is in moment of crisis.
US economy is still ok and far better then anywhere else in the world
low unemployment
far less inflation in the US then many other countries
gdp still up.
where did he failed exactly ?
Yeah Yeah the Democrats say we have a comprehensive package for border security but will not release it. The GOP has HR 2 on the table
If Biden wins we could see 20 million migrants crossing the border in his next term and they all will be paying the cartels
Lets not forget Joe Biden I will not build another foot of wall. Oh Oh were losing in Arizona Ok Ill build the wall but I have to
i got a fool proof way to stop them from paying cartels. if that ever actually was your real concern.
HR 2 is a non starter. it's awful and dehumanizing which is the intent because republicans hate brown people. and in fact would be even more awful for those migrant children you are pretending to care about.
c'mon guys, student loan forgiveness was a big promise of his and he's done many tone deaf victory laps on this even after the bait and switch
most people i know, even huge supporters of his, are very upset about how this went down
Saying "c'mon guys" doesn't make it so. On several occasions when he was running for president, including one time during a debate if my memory is correct, Biden was asked point blank whether he would promise to implement the progressive version of student loan forgiveness. He always refused, much to the irritation and frustration of progressives in the party.
He clearly wanted voters to believe he would do something, but he didn't want to seem too far to the left on that particular issue.
That treatment is reserved for corporations and banks. I wish I were a corporation or a bank :(
ummm..... too big to fail?? Yeah, that's messed up. It's also messed up that we've stuck an entire generation with bills for the rest of their lives just to get an education. Whole system is bad.
