Israel/Palestine thread
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ooh, someone's a bit defensive.
TikTok leans pro-Palestinian because its userbase skews younger, not because the algorithm is "designed to bombard you with lies and misinformation." I assure you that if it was possible to put the whammy on teens via social media, the Pentagon would not have trouble finding new recruits.
its pro-Palestine bc the democratic nature of it brings the truth out. ofc Musk and the rest of the powerful are trying to change that.
Yeah, I’ve never watched BBC either.
and those such as tiktok, skew pro-Palestine for the same reason. cant hide the truth just yet.
I have been saying for a long time that going after TikTok alone is not the correct play. The correct play is to outlaw the practices for all companies.
Having said that, I absolutely believe that a hostile nation having access to that kind of an app is far more dangerous than a businessman. The reason I believe that is not because of "Pro-Palestinian content". That is a drop in a bucket compared to what they can do with that kind of influence. One of the most terrifying things imo was that TikTok is designed to shorten attention spans, to target youths, and to send youths down rabbit holes. Meanwhile Douyin, the Chinese version of the app, does not allow people under a certain age to use the app after a certain time, content is interrupted by something positive like a science channel every certain amount of scrolls, and doomscrolling is not enabled as there's a limit.
There's far more worrisome stuff than pro-Palestine content being broadcast on it. I understand this is the Israel Palestine thread, so that's what gets focused on, but calling TikTok a national security threat goes far beyond that.
Having said that, I absolutely believe that a hostile nation having access to that kind of an app is far more dangerous than a businessman. The reason I believe that is not because of "Pro-Palestinian content". That is a drop in a bucket compared to what they can do with that kind of influence. One of the most terrifying things imo was that TikTok is designed to shorten attention spans, to target youths, and to send youths down rabbit holes
You've just put forward an argument for why an app controlled by a hostile nation is less toxic than an app controlled by a business?
Yes I believe so, although it doesn't really matter. As I said in the first sentence, they both need be outlawed.
Kind of surprised by the ICJ ruling, in a good way. Think them recognizing Israel's right to defend itself and not ordering a cease fire trends towards the best case they could have possibly ruled (if you're Israel).
15:2 vote is pretty decisive too
The guard rail language on top seems humane. No issue there.
Yes I believe so, although it doesn't really matter. As I said in the first sentence, they both need be outlawed.
I would not be surprised at all if the Tik Tok algorithm is actively being nudged in directions the CCP thinks would be beneficial to them at our expense. For example, Tik Tok is generally more positive of Trump than Biden; but Trump certainly doesn't have any positions or values that Tik Tok's younger, more liberal user base would align with better. It could all be organic, but no guarantee.
Kind of surprised by the ICJ ruling, in a good way. Think them recognizing Israel's right to defend itself and not ordering a cease fire trends towards the best case they could have possibly ruled (if you're Israel).
15:2 vote is pretty decisive too
The guard rail language on top seems humane. No issue there.
they told Israel to stop the "war". not a cease-fire. they were ordered to literally stop killing Palestinians.
My guess is China is mostly hands off on TikTok algo but censors some things (Taiwan, Xinnie, HK, Xinjiang, Putin, etc.)
It doesn’t take a lot for the algo to “automatically” learn such content is a dead end in terms of viewership and voila we got CCP induced bias.
I listened to it. And I just listened again.
"In relation to the Palestinians in Gaza take all measures within its powers to prevent in particular a) the killing members of the group. "
You support a genocidal regime. You could rethink your positions and change.
https://www.axios.com/2024/01/26/unrwa-g...
So surreal I am really at "lol" point with how compromised UN is in Gaza.
https://www.axios.com/2024/01/26/unrwa-g...
So surreal I am really at "lol" point with how compromised UN is in Gaza.
Ya the news today on that front was pretty wild
Kind of surprised by the ICJ ruling, in a good way. Think them recognizing Israel's right to defend itself and not ordering a cease fire trends towards the best case they could have possibly ruled (if you're Israel).
15:2 vote is pretty decisive too
The guard rail language on top seems humane. No issue there.
Yes i was expecting much worse
https://www.axios.com/2024/01/26/unrwa-g...
So surreal I am really at "lol" point with how compromised UN is in Gaza.
And we can trust UN to investigate itself? Lol indeed
Don't think the genocidestans realize what the ruling would have actually been had SA "won" that.
I do think that the court saying the efforts going forward needed to do everything to avoid a genocide was perfectly reasonable. Btw saw some putrid footage on hostage families preventing aid going in on the premise it gets into Hamas hands. Look, I get it. It does get into Hamas hands. But if even 30% gets to civilians, you gotta make that tradeoff. I'm also getting a little pissed at the rightwing elements that are pushing the whole "all of them are bad" stance too. Like **** off, truly. I'm the first to admit a huge amount of them celebrated Oct 7 and 9/11. But we gotta get off this "all" stuff. These absolutes help nobody.
Tiktok would be very similar to any US based unregulated media platform. It isnt causing our youth to think and do a bunch of stupid ****. The platform just offers a place for the idiots to do it and that's going to alway involve a lot of the younger people.
