ex-President Trump

ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by ecriture d'adulte P

Who could possibly be surprised? Trump has dominated 3 primaries wire to wire spanning almost a decade. If he wins it's obviously because he's very much the kind of president republicans want. Which probably also explains the extremely low GDP per capita poor healthcare, education etc in most solidly red states.

What explains the fact that more people move away from Dem controlled states toward republican controlled states than viceversa, if republicans are so terrible at governing?

When you see people voting with their feet that's quite meaningful


by lozen P

If you can't get the fact that I will not be dancing in my living room


That's good to hear, but it's pretty strange that you said you would. If you consider him deplorable, I wouldn't think you'd want to leave such an impression.

by lozen P

but will say ]Well democrats you got what you deserved shame on me


Yeah, now I have no idea what you're saying. Shame on you for what? Does this mean you will be dancing so shame on you, or shame on you for not making yourself clear in the previous post, or...?

by lozen P

It just baffles me why many of you are to blind or maybe to stupid to see why folks will still vote for Trump over Biden


Cool.

by lozen P

It just baffles me why many of you are to blind or maybe to stupid to see why folks will still vote for Trump over Biden


Perhaps you're baffled because no one is "to blind or maybe to stupid to see why folks will still vote for Trump over Biden". There are lots of reasons for that. What is harder to see is why someone who has repeatedly said Trump is a bad person, deplorable, etc. and isn't even American is actively rooting for Trump to win.

Not that you have to justify yourself, and not that I can't think of a couple of reasons why you might feel this way. But you shouldn't be baffled when others think it's more than a little odd.


by Luciom P

What explains the fact that more people move away from Dem controlled states toward republican controlled states than viceversa, if republicans are so terrible at governing?

When you see people voting with their feet that's quite meaningful

People leave California because the average home price is $750k. Capitalism is a system where prices are determined by demand. Why are places that are majority Republican so cheap?


The perfect outcome would be a huge win of the right in the EU elections, Biden president, and the American senate with a +2 or more republican majority.

NATO and global trade are safe (for what the west can do about that), but green monstrosities are stopped in their tracks.


by microbet P

People leave California because the average home price is $750k. Capitalism is a system where prices are determined by demand. Why are places that are majority Republican so cheap?

Republicans dominate the rural areas. Same thing with Hitler. Nothing correlates better with support for Hitler in the 1932 elections than rural vs urban. Hitler and Trump have the same exact demographic.


by microbet P

Republicans dominate the rural areas. Same thing with Hitler. Nothing correlates better with support for Hitler in the 1932 elections than rural vs urban. Hitler and Trump have the same exact demographic.

Not true at all. H had the cities too, right?
He had them all.


by microbet P

People leave California because the average home price is $750k. Capitalism is a system where prices are determined by demand. Why are places that are majority Republican so cheap?

Supply and demand.

And houses cost less in places with the same or lower unemployment, and the same or higher median wage, because republicans govern better, ie allow more houses to get built, on average.


Lol microbet defending democrat housing policies


by Luciom P

republicans govern better, ie allow more houses to get built, on average.

you see a lot from Samara


by washoe P

Not true at all. H had the cities too, right?
He had them all.

He did not and he did not have them all at all. Do you ever look anything up?

The Nazis got 37% of the vote in 1932.


by Luciom P

Supply and demand.

And houses cost less in places with the same or lower unemployment, and the same or higher median wage, because republicans govern better, ie allow more houses to get built, on average.

Why would they need more houses in Democratic areas? I thought everyone was leaving and no one wanted to move there. I guess they just want to but can't because there's not enough building. Ok, sure, but people still like it better in Democratic areas.


by microbet P

Why would they need more houses in Democratic areas? I thought everyone was leaving and no one wanted to move there. I guess they just want to but can't because there's not enough building. Ok, sure, but people still like it better in Democratic areas.

Lol


by Luciom P

If it wasn't in large part the same people who voted for McCain, then Romney and who also vote for non trumpian republican candidates when available, you might have a point.

But it's the same people, for the very large part.

"Illiterate people" lol, more than half of all college graduate men (all races combined, not whites only) voted for trump even in 2020 when he lost resoundingly.

As long as you consider "the absolute majority of engineers

Like many of your post, huh nope.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1184...


https://www.brookings.edu/articles/2020-...

It is clear that white voting blocs start at different levels of Democratic or Republican support. In fact, there was a modest decline in Republican support in a key Trump base: white men without college educations. This group showed a reduced Republican advantage from 48% to a still sizeable 42% between 2016 and 2020.

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Yet among white voters with college educations, there were notable shifts in Biden’s direction. White male college graduates reduced their support for Trump from 14% to 3%. At the same time, white female college graduates boosted their Democratic support from 7% to 9% nationally. Moreover, in key battleground states, white female college graduates generally registered greater support for Biden in 2020 than they did for Hillary Clinton in 2016.


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Beginning with Pennsylvania, it is clear that white college graduates—both male and female—voted more Democratic in 2020 than in 2016. Particularly noteworthy is the change for white male college graduates (from a 17% Republican advantage to just 2%), while white female college graduates increased their Democratic support from 14% to 19%.

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Michigan’s flip to Biden’s column in 2020 is even more dependent on higher D-R margins among each of the white voting blocs. An especially strong shift in Democratic advantage occurred for white female college graduates, from 6% in 2016 to 20% in 2020. Also, large declines in Republican advantages were evident for white college and noncollege men. Among the latter, the Republican advantage fell from 44% to 30%.

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Georgia, a longtime deep red Republican state, has been inching toward “battleground” status due to its large and growing Democratic-leaning Black population. Yet its strong white Republican margins have led to GOP presidential wins since 1996. This year, those white Republican margins were reduced enough to make the state competitive.
The biggest swings from Georgia’s 2016 results were reduced Republican support among white college-educated men and women. The former saw its Republican margin shrink from 55% to 12% between 2016 and 2020; the latter’s shrank from 29% to 10%.

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Take Arizona. It is a state that has not voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1996. While rapidly diversifying, its older white population has leaned heavily toward Republicans. This time was different; white college graduate women and men flipped sharply toward Democrats, from 2016 Republican advantages of 2% and 12%, respectively, to 2020 Democratic advantages of 15% and 3%

I won’t do them all…


What do u have to provide ?


by microbet P

Republicans dominate the rural areas. Same thing with Hitler. Nothing correlates better with support for Hitler in the 1932 elections than rural vs urban. Hitler and Trump have the same exact demographic.

"Mussolini liked pasta, his voters as well, so if you like pasta you are a fascist " -microbet


by Montrealcorp P

Like many of your post, huh nope.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1184...


https://www.brookings.edu/articles/2020-...

I won’t do them all…


What do u have to provide ?

Do you understand that the data you are copy pasting is telling you that a majority of college educated people voted trump in 2016 lol? And that in 2020 that % declined slightly, but it was still 46-47%?and it's still the majority of college educated whites? And males of all races?


by Luciom P

"Mussolini liked pasta, his voters as well, so if you like pasta you are a fascist " -microbet

Speaking of Mussolini, you're Italian right? How do you feel about Mussolini?


Remember how Trump tweeted Mussolini?

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes....

Mr. Trump, in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” said he was unaware that it had been a quote from Mussolini. But he didn’t seem to care.

“It’s a very good quote,” said Mr. Trump. “I didn’t know who said it, but what difference does it make if it was Mussolini or somebody else — it’s a very good quote.”


by microbet P

Speaking of Mussolini, you're Italian right? How do you feel about Mussolini?

He was a terrible leftist dictator as all socialists are of course.


No true right-winger.


by microbet P

Remember how Trump tweeted Mussolini?

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes....

That quote isn't from Mussolini. It was something Mussolini said among many other things, but the lion/sheep phrase is very old in Italian and was used in WW1 by pro war activists (that's probably where Mussolini heard it first) and even before that


by Luciom P

Supply and demand.

And houses cost less in places with the same or lower unemployment, and the same or higher median wage, because republicans govern better, ie allow more houses to get built, on average.[/QUOTE]

Obviously demands of houses is lower there since not many want to live in poorer places so yeah easier to have cheaper houses there and easier to have an increase in supply since there wasn’t much there to begin with .

Red states bein


by microbet P

No true right-winger.

Man Mussolini was for years the editor of the main socialist newspaper in Italy lol

He then broke up with the official socialist party uniquely because of his position on WW1 (he was pro intervention, they were mainly against).

He never broke up with them because of a difference in political economic views


by Montrealcorp P

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Obviously demands of houses is lower there since not many want to live in poorer places so yeah easier to have cheaper houses there and easier to have an increase in supply since there wasn’t much there to begin with .

Red states being the poorest been lasting far more then the past 2-3 years .
So what do housing have anything to do with this anyway ….
Obviously lowest income states will always have lower housing prices shrug

Lol now I understand I wasted time talking with you about every topic we discussed.


by Luciom P

Do you understand that the data you are copy pasting is telling you that a majority of college educated people voted trump in 2016 lol? And that in 2020 that % declined slightly, but it was still 46-47%?and it's still the majority of college educated whites? And males of all races?

Slightly ? Lol
Did u read it ?
Obviously not…..

Yes 2016 was a rejection vote of the system and smart people saw how bad an idea it was to put a clown as president .
2020 clearly corrected that ….

But hey i won’t argue with someone who can’t read and can’t provide any data to support his claims .


by Luciom P

Man Mussolini was for years the editor of the main socialist newspaper in Italy lol

He then broke up with the official socialist party uniquely because of his position on WW1 (he was pro intervention, they were mainly against).

He never broke up with them because of a difference in political economic views

I know about Mussolini. You just call whatever you don't like leftist. That's wrong. You can call them all Statists if you like and you will be correct, the Statists suck whether they are Hitler, Mussolini, Mao or Stalin. But I've talked about borders enough with you that I know you are a freedom hating Statist.


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