The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
Discrimination is causing the suicides of trans youth. The ways of thinking proposed by a number of posters in threads like these is causing suicides in lgbtq communities right now.
When a natural condition becomes medicalized and treated as a disease, that can cause mental distress as well
Being transgender is innate like hair and eye color.
Gender is a social construction
Biological sex is not gender.
If gender is a social construct, how can it be innate?
If gender is a social construct, then how does surgically altering the genitals (associated with biological SEX, and objective--a penis is a penis, etc) help gender dysphoria?
Gender is either totally, partly, or not at all determined by genitals. If it's not at all determined by genitals (it's a social construct), then how does altering the genitals help dysphoria?
There is no “transgenderism”. Trans people were incorrectly assigned a gender and treated as a gender they are not. Cisgender people were correctly assigned a gender and treated correctly. So most people are cisgender.
Discrimination is causing the suicides of trans youth. The ways of thinking proposed by a number of posters in threads like these is causing suicides in lgbtq communities right now.
You’re a propagandist with no authority on the mind or on gender. Your posts are not going to age well.
Race is also a social construction.
Just as black people in america have innate characteristics they are born with that make them black in america so too do trans people, despite race and gender being social constructions.
Again, if race is a social construction, how can race be innate? It can't be both.
If race is a social construction, whence lies racism? Or maybe racism is a social construction too?
No one is concerned about the surgeries on minors that are done to treat diseases or injuries.
The question then becomes, why are you so concerned about .000008% of the under 18 population getting surgeries deemed medically pertinent by health care professionals?
Certainly there are more important and bigger issues to be concerned about?
The question then becomes, why are you so concerned about .000008% of the under 18 population getting surgeries deemed medically pertinent by health care professionals?
Certainly there are more important and bigger issues to be concerned about?
I mean the obvious answer is he cares about the welfare of children.
Ah yes, Transgenderism is a jewish construct to obliterate white culture. I learn so much from you guys.
Coordi, your posts are excellent.
That is why i added the part about being deemed medically pertinent by health care professionals
Are you implying that you know better than health care professionals? Why would you think that? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the subject offending your sensibilities. Couldn't possible be that!
The question then becomes, why are you so concerned about .000008% of the under 18 population getting surgeries deemed medically pertinent by health care professionals?
Certainly there are more important and bigger issues to be concerned about?
17k minors started puberty blockers from 2018 to 2022 (insurance covered, + unknown amounts paying out of pocket).
I am concerned for almost all of them as well, that's at least 6k sterilized minors if we are lucky and it's statistically reversible in two third of cases, and only if we act now banning the procedure (prescription of puberty blockers in gender disphoric minors).
And that was at the end of 2022.
Tens of kids everyday start their medical sterilization.
How big do you need the number to be before you are concerned?
That is why i added the part about being deemed medically pertinent by health care professionals part
Are you implying that you know better than health care professionals? Why would you think that? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the subject offending your sensibilities. Couldn't possible be that!
We do imply a portion of healthcare professionals have been irredimably corrupted by a pseudo-religious belief that has no scientific basis which is the idea that "trans youth" exists in any meaningful amount
That is why i added the part about being deemed medically pertinent by health care professionals
Are you implying that you know better than health care professionals? Why would you think that? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the subject offending your sensibilities. Couldn't possible be that!
I do know better than these “professionals” who offer GAC. I’m going to offer an alternative and compete against GAC for free, eventually exposing it for the disgrace it is.
That is why i added the part about being deemed medically pertinent by health care professionals
Are you implying that you know better than health care professionals? Why would you think that? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the subject offending your sensibilities. Couldn't possible be that!
Have you thought there might be forces at work inside 'medical professionalism' that don't have the best interests of people in mind, at least sometimes? And that maybe he thinks this is one of those times?
Assenting to authority, especially when a good portion of that authority is financially motivated isn't very critical minded, wouldn't you say?
That's not even mentioning the fact this topic is pretty hotly debated inside the medical community, and is anything but a consensus, which you seem to imply.
Have you thought there might be forces at work inside 'medical professionalism' that don't have the best interests of people in mind, at least sometimes? And that maybe he thinks this is one of those times?
Assenting to authority, especially when a good portion of that authority is financially motivated isn't very critical minded, wouldn't you say?
No, right. Just a bunch of jews obliterating white culture by planting their corrupt doctors in Gender Care
Well not only mine, given puberty blockers for gender disphoric minors are being questioned by scientific bodies across the EU as well.
And not all American doctors are on board with the idea either.
Do you accept at the very least that there is no consensus among experts? Or we want to go like for COVID claiming there is a consensus favouring exactly whatever thing democrats prefer?
Well not only mine, given puberty blockers for gender disphoric minors are being questioned by scientific bodies across the EU as well.
And not all American doctors are on board with the idea either.
Do you accept at the very least that there is no consensus among experts? Or we want to go like for COVID claiming there is a consensus favouring exactly whatever thing democrats prefer?
I was posting about surgeries then you are coming in with puberty blockers. I don't know enough about the subject to debate.
And yeah, most fields don't have universal consensus among their experts. A dentist once told my mom that if she was going to pick between brushing and using a water pick that a water pick was better. Another dentist told my girl friend that using a water pick was next to useless. Which one is the corrupted brain washed money grubbing piece of ****? One of them has to be, right?
I was posting about surgeries then you are coming in with puberty blockers. I don't know enough about the subject to debate.
And yeah, most fields don't have universal consensus among their experts. A dentist once told my mom that if she was going to pick between brushing and using a water pick that a water pick was better. Another dentist told my girl friend that using a water pick was next to useless. Which one is the corrupted brain
Well you posted about genital surgeries to minimize (very low numbers).
But we had iirc approx 700 breast removals for gender dysphoria as well, and the 17k puberty blockers.
And remember that's without the whole year 2023.
We aren't talking about universal consensus, we are talking about very civilized countries, with better health outcomes than the USA (so arguably, we more skilled doctors as well, or at the very least equally skilled), where whole scientifical bodies are telling you "stop now, this thing is problematic"
Not some crank against consensus. Whole majorities of the best experts in several countries with better health outcomes than the USA.
Keep denying that American (and anglo in general) doctors are the actual anti scientific outliers if you want but that's the measurable truth for this topic.
About your dentist example, the answer might be in the middle or one of them is terrible at his job. If I cared enough I would check what the major expert associations in first world countries say on the matter and so on.
But you know, it's very unlikely that following the bad advice of the 2 there can make a person sterile or incapable of having orgasms right?
Now otoh we have these medical interventions that do make you sterile with very high probability
So before you prescribe that to a minor, you have to be as certain one can possibly be about such matters before even thinking of prescribing them.
Which means at the very least an incredible high threshold for consensus among experts. Which we don't have, and that's enough to fully ban the practice for minors.
Well you posted about genital surgeries to minimize (very low numbers).
But we had iirc approx 700 breast removals for gender dysphoria as well, and the 17k puberty blockers.
And remember that's without the whole year 2023.
We aren't talking about universal consensus, we are talking about very civilized countries, with better health outcomes than the USA (so arguably, we more skilled doctors as well, or at the very least equally skilled), wher
Bad teeth are incredibly bad for your heart. Is heart disease better, as bad, or worse than being sterile? You might prefer death over never having another orgasm but I dunno if that is the medical consensus. Let me check what Norway thinks on this subject.
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According to the American Society of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgeons (ASPS), in 2020, nearly 230,000 cosmetic surgeries and nearly 140,000 non-invasive cosmetic procedures were performed on teens ages 13-19.Jul 26, 2021
3;200 breast augmentations in 2020.
Why aren’t you guys up in.arms about these mutilations of children?
No, right. Just a bunch of jews obliterating white culture by planting their corrupt doctors in Gender Care
No, not Jews coordi. People, human beings, with financial incentives. Transgender hormones/surgery/treatment is big business. It's kind of ironic you think the entire medical industry has these people's best interests in mind but would probably disagree with the price of insulin or other lifesaving drugs, or the pushing of Ozempic instead of the gutting of the corn syrup industry, or the price of health insurance, or the fact there is a drug commercial on TV every 90 seconds.
