The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
And these people exist cross-culturally? I don't think there is consensus there either.
I think there is, they might end up as "only" being homosexuals who dress like the opposite sex and groom like the opposite sex (easier for men who feel they are female to do ofc), but it's very similar to trans people in the west, just they might not have access to hormones so they can't grow secondary sexual characteristics.
I think there is, they might end up as "only" being homosexuals who dress like the opposite sex and groom like the opposite sex (easier for men who feel they are female to do ofc), but it's very similar to trans people in the west, just they might not have access to hormones so they can't grow secondary sexual characteristics.
There isn’t any link between being a trans woman and being a gay male other than people like you insisting there is. That’s just your personal feelings.
I mean we are talking in both cases about biological males who are sexually attracted by men, that's a very big similarity.
more trans women are attracted to women than they are to men, but trans sexuality is a complex subject. Whereas gay men are always attracted to men. If you went to pride parades or took part in gay communities you’d see how ridiculous the idea is that gay men are being groomed to be trans.
more trans women are attracted to women than they are to men, but trans sexuality is a complex subject. Whereas gay men are always attracted to men. If you went to pride parades or took part in gay communities you’d see how ridiculous the idea is that gay men are being groomed to be trans.
Some homosexual kids are getting convinced to be gay (mostly girls actually to be clear), but this is unrelated to what i wrote above.
Do you have data on the very bizzarre claim that "more trans women are attracted to women than they are to men"?
Some homosexual kids are getting convinced to be gay (mostly girls actually to be clear), but this is unrelated to what i wrote above.
Do you have data on the very bizzarre claim that "more trans women are attracted to women than they are to men"?
Homosexual kids don’t need to be convinced to be gay because they are gay? Worded very weirdly
from wiki:
A 2015 survey of roughly 3,000 American trans women showed that at least 60% were attracted to women and 55% were attracted to men.[5] Of the trans women respondents 27% answered gay, lesbian, or same-gender-loving, 20% answered bisexual, 19% heterosexual, 16% pansexual, 6% answered asexual, 6% queer, and 6% did not answer.[3]
more trans women are attracted to women than they are to men, but trans sexuality is a complex subject. Whereas gay men are always attracted to men. If you went to pride parades or took part in gay communities you’d see how ridiculous the idea is that gay men are being groomed to be trans.
For a fair percentage of trans women, what they are attracted to is the idea of themselves as woman.
Some homosexual kids are getting convinced to be gay (mostly girls actually to be clear), but this is unrelated to what i wrote above.
Do you have data on the very bizzarre claim that "more trans women are attracted to women than they are to men"?
Do yall really believe this?
Like, where you tempted to be gay once and now it haunts you?
Thats the strange part about this line of thinking to me. Like, where all the dudes who think like this teetering on catching the gay and now they just can't deal with their conscience 30 years later?
Or maybe you sound ****ing ridiculous lmao
You keep saying this without providing any evidence that it actually happens. But, you also just dropped the conversation where you claimed that prepubertal and "after the start of puberty" were actually the same thing -- if you won't admit to being wrong about something so obvious, then I don't know that debating you about something possibly less clear is worth the effort.
Some homosexual kids are getting convinced to be gay (mostly girls actually to be clear), but this is unrelated to what i wrote above.
Do you have data on the very bizzarre claim that "more trans women are attracted to women than they are to men"?
Anecdotal, but the three trans women I know (in local bands) all date women.
Just as most Americans don't like the job their elected officials are doing, most doctors don't support the AMA and actually oppose their policies.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/cam...
"you get 1,093,472 physicians, [...] ultimately there are only 132,133 practicing physicians who are AMA members. That's 12.1%."
And to claim that physician salaries are a driver of US healthcare costs is also rather false. You can find som
is that quote from mein kampf?
You keep saying this without providing any evidence that it actually happens. But, you also just dropped the conversation where you claimed that prepubertal and "after the start of puberty" were actually the same thing -- if you won't admit to being wrong about something so obvious, then I don't know that debating you about something possibly less clear is worth the effort.
I didn't drop, I thought there was nothing more to say.
You are fine with kids getting puberty blockers at the first signs of puberty under some conditions, for gender disphoria, I consider it monstrous.
I was perhaps wrong or imprecise in using prepuberal to mean "even kids who aren't already fully in puberty" (still not sure I was wrong about that), but given I clarified what I meant and I gave you sources I thought we had moved on.
They are giving puberty blockers to kids who don't even yet have pubic hair or have experienced sexual erection, is that more to your taste? Semantically appropriate?
And some places are making that illegal and j agree with those decisions
Do you cites for any of this?
I think there are way more openly gay students in classrooms today then ever, and way more than transgender students.
BDD has nothing to do with gender. Its a condition where people constantly find flws in their appearance, thinking they arent pretty enough.
Pretty sure there's lots of puberty to be found in schools. Like everywhere.
And why in the world do you think Prince would ne a woman today?
Sorry for late reply. Ive been thinking if I had a cite for it. For gays get extinguished you meant Im assuming.
If trans numbers trippled in recent years, that should mean gay numbers must have shrunk imo. But we had to Look at numbers for this.
BDD is something a lot , if not all kids who go through puperty have. This can lead to them mistakingly mistake it for a gender issue and thus they might think theyre trans. When in fact they are just confused by puperty. This is why a lot of people make that argument with BDD being misread as trans. I agree with that argument a lot actually bc i know BD is a big issue especially for trans and adolescents and you hear it having been the reason for transition by detransitioners. They say they were actually never trans, they just had BDD or as they say body dysmophia.
Puberty is found in schools im sure.
The problem is that puberty is wrongly managed by schools now a lot, which leads to wrongly attesting trans to students.
You should listen to detransitioners to fully understand.
Prince was very feminine. I think a lot of people think he would have been trans if born 10-15 years ago.
So what are we at now two trans shooter going in to shoot up churches ?
Nashville and now Texas with the shooter at Joel Oosten’s church
Last I heard that was unconfirmed, but I'm not clear on why you think that's important.
I wonder how many more it will take before they've evened up the score with the number of religious people who have murdered LGBT people throughout history?
Until it seems about even, I'm not going to mind this kind of thing a bit.
