2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by lozen P

That was back when Canada's military was respected and don't get me wrong the men and women that serve now are highly respected but our troops are depleted, our equipment is outdated and we do a crappy job taking care of our veterans.

Were actually cutting a billion back from defense

It would be proper to do something more yes.

There is no arc of history, it is up to us, voters, citizens, participants in society to get things to their proper state even if it means "going back" sometimes from some trends we consider bad.

We can win, there is no ultimate necessarily ultra progressive endgame, unless we give up


I'd have to think the S&P 500 hitting a whopping 5k is a good thing for Biden if it can sustain another 9 months. Who knows what happens from here, but the people that benefits certainly have a very high voter turnout rate (olds, professionals)


I guess there is two forms of Justice one for Biden and one For Trump

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/...

President Joe Biden “willfully” retained and disclosed highly classified materials when he was a private citizen, including documents about military and foreign policy in Afghanistan and other sensitive national security matters, according to a Justice Department report


“Given Mr. Biden’s limited precision and recall during his interviews with his ghostwriter and with our office, jurors may hesitate to place too much evidentiary weight on a single eight-word utterance to his ghostwriter about finding classified documents in Virginia, in the absence of other, more direct evidence.”

“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” investigators wrote.


by lozen P

I guess there is two forms of Justice one for Biden and one For Trump

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/...

i never thought it would be that hard for you to understand the difference between willingly and unwillingly do something...


by Montrealcorp P

i never thought it would be that hard for you to understand the difference between willingly and unwillingly do something...

Yeah Trump willingly took the documents and Biden willingly took the documents and shared them

The report says he willfully kept the documents


Can presidents stop taking classified documents home? Is that too high of a bar?


by Luciom P

Can presidents stop taking classified documents home? Is that too high of a bar?

Biden wasn’t President when he took these all home and shared them


by lozen P

Yeah Trump willingly took the documents and Biden willingly took the documents and shared them

The report says he willfully kept the documents

how many times biden got ask and refused under many pretense not to send back classified documents, even vs legal actions ?

thinking both is the same is hilarious disingenuous from anyone but you of course.

and the funny thing , what was trump saying and promise when he took office ?

u just cant find a president as unstable as this guy...


by Montrealcorp P

how many times biden got ask and refused under many pretense not to send back classified documents, even vs legal actions ?

thinking both is the same is hilarious disingenuous from anyone but you of course.

and the funny thing , what was trump saying and promise when he took office ?

u just cant find a president as unstable as this guy...


You keep telling me stop with the whataboutism

Biden wasn’t charged because a jury would be sympathetic to an old man with no memory.

Biden shared these classified documents and took them as a senator not as Vp or President

The man is unfit to be president of the USA

If you can’t see this is damning for Biden …..


by lozen P

You keep telling me stop with the whataboutism

Biden wasn’t charged because a jury would be sympathetic to an old man with no memory.

Biden shared these classified documents and took them as a senator not as Vp or President

The man is unfit to be president of the USA

If you can’t see this is damning for Biden …..

Biden hasn't been a senator in 15 years. He didn't take these documents when he was a senator. I assume that he received most of them when he was VP. In any case, Luciom's point is valid. It shouldn't be that hard for high-level politicians to avoid retaining classified documents.

Biden didn't hinder the investigation. Trump did. Biden willingly returned the documents. Trump did not. But any way you slice it, this is not helpful for Biden, especially the comments in the special counsel's report about Biden's age and memory.


by Rococo P

Biden hasn't been a senator in 15 years. He didn't take these documents when he was a senator. I assume that he received most of them when he was VP. In any case, Luciom's point is valid. It shouldn't be that hard for high-level politicians to avoid retaining classified documents.

Biden didn't hinder the investigation. Trump did. Biden willingly returned the documents. Trump did not. But any way you slice it, this is not helpful for B

Sorry my mistake as VP but he shared these classified documents . No ones proved that Trump did this


by lozen P

Sorry my mistake as VP but he shared these classified documents . No ones proved that Trump did this

What in the world are you talking about. There is extensive evidence that Trump showed classified documents to reporters when they came down to Mar a Lago


The mishandling of classified information is extremely common. Being cooperative, open, and honest plays a massive part in how they view the transgression.

Source: I work at a company that has secret and top secret contracts


by lozen P

No ones proved that Trump did this

He was caught red-handed, lozen.


by Rococo P

What in the world are you talking about. There is extensive evidence that Trump showed classified documents to reporters when they came down to Mar a Lago

Please provide links ?


by lozen P

Sorry my mistake as VP but he shared these classified documents . No ones proved that Trump did this

Trump kept (some of?) them in a bathroom accessible to visitors


by Luciom P

Trump kept (some of?) them in a bathroom accessible to visitors

Says who CNN ?

Biden intentionally shared classified and national secrets .

I love all the whataboutism when it’s damning against Biden


by lozen P

Says who CNN ?

Biden intentionally shared classified and national secrets .

I love all the whataboutism when it’s damning against Biden

The indictment says that


There are actually photos



by lozen P

Please provide links ?

Are you seriously unaware of this. It was all over the indictment. There is audio. He apparently was talking to the writer and publisher of a memoir for Mark Meadows as well as two other staffers w/o security clearance.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/audio-...


by Luciom P

There are actually photos


Looks tidier than the garage . I’m not sure how many hookers and drug dealers were in the bathroom compared to the Biden house


by lozen P

You keep telling me stop with the whataboutism

by lozen P

I love all the whataboutism when it’s damning against Biden


LOL holy **** dude, you're the one who introduced the subject by comparing the two:

by lozen P

I guess there is two forms of Justice one for Biden and one For Trump


When you bring up a subject comparing Biden and Trump, maybe you should expect some replies that compare Biden and Trump?

Is this some kind of weird trolling routine, or are you just unable to remember your posts 4.5 hours later?


I think lozen is right that Biden got an unjustifiably soft treatment given trump is indicted for similar actions.

I think the comparison is kinda reasonable and I don't think you need to be a maga trumpist to see similarities in the two cases, and asymmetrical treatment by justice


I haven't read a lot about it so I couldn't say whether or not they went soft on Biden, but...

by coordi P

The mishandling of classified information is extremely common. Being cooperative, open, and honest plays a massive part in how they view the transgression.


This, obviously. It's a pretty big and important difference, IMO. Far too big a difference for a simple offhand "I guess there is two forms of Justice one for Biden and one For Trump".


I'd like to see the comparison of volume too. It looks like Trump had literal boxes full of documents where they made it sound like Biden had a few specific documents that were meaningful to him.


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