Israel/Palestine thread
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Vic the commish already handed out the trophy to the champs. You can't really undo that now.
There may be another conflict/thread we can do this over. But this one for you is over now. Your watch has ended.
look at this guy gloating at all of the dead civilians.
You did indeed
Sorry vic I missed your answer, fair play.
Right. So if we love seeing dead babies then by that rationale you support innocent civilians being kidnapped and held against their will?
Not interested in your attempts at moral equivalence. If you need to have the difference between kidnapped ravers and militant suspects being detained actually pointed out to you then I don't know what to tell ya except you're one deluded mfr and that's being kind.
The hostages had nothing to do with nothing. There's also non Israeli foreign hostages. Speaks volumes you don't feel comfortable answering what should be blindingly easy to answer.
I actually answered this question. I want to see zero Palestinians die.
Sadly Hamas put them in this place, and could end this tomorrow if they’d release the hostages and surrender.
We know that won’t happen because they don’t care about their own people.
lol. You consider Hamas a trusted source.
He doesn’t, and won’t answer the question.
When he finally addresses it, he won’t give a real answer. It’ll be the same usual Vic bs.
It does seem like this thread has hit a wall.
did you miss all of the Israeli sources I posted on this very page?
in fact I rarely even post Al Jazeera bc you guys would dismiss it so quickly.
Boids, do any women willingly spend time with you? I have a hard time imagining it.
Considering none of those are actually true, no.
bolded is not based on facts. it really does get tiresome rehashing these same points and looking up all the articles.
Israel has detained an order of magnitude more civilians and children than Gaza ever could. and this ofc includes the West Bank where many of the children released during the cease fire have been rearrested.
why are you asking Hamas to do something that you would not ask Israel to do?
every single one of those things has been documented extensively by Israeli sources and even by Western sources.
Have faith young man. She will find something wrong in one of my posts to focus on
Now you're getting it. And there's also his constant comparisons of Israelis to Nazis as well as his constant Holocaust comparisons. Those are standard anti Semitic tropes.
now rachel i know this has been a very difficult time and you probably want to go home to whatever is left of your family, but there's a neutral third party on the way who will put some testing instruments up your vagina for independent rape verification purposes. no need to worry, he's a qualified medical professional.
so, if you'll just hold on a while we'd all be very grateful
Unfortunately there are a lot of self hating jews
That wouldn't be difficult. Hopefully she's ok with heathens.
Every country on Earth detains criminal suspects, some for years before they go to trial. Serial killers Mark Dutroux in Belgium and Lonnie Franklin Jr in America were detained for seven and 6.5 years respectively before going to trial. And by being detained they weren't kidnapped but detained as criminal suspects by the state. Why don't you just answer the question? The hostages kidnapped by Hamas aren't criminal suspects detained by a state. So should Hamas unconditionally release them or not? Just answer the question and stop trying to squirm out of it.
Hamas, who know they'll never be allowed to return to power, don't have anything much left to bargain with except the remaining hostages, so it's going to be difficult to extract those.
But how would you see it, dear heart.
well if Israel considers them criminal suspects then what kind I say? guess they deserve it.
now, do we afford Hamas the same ideals? maybe they consider these people to be criminal suspects?
Well the search was short lived.
its actually not difficult. they could have been extracted on Oct 8th. Hamas offered a like for like trade and an end to hostilities.
they are still offering the same.
Vic...should Hamas unconditionally release the hostages...or not? Yes or no?
Where did you answer the question?
At present Israel won't attend the Cairo talks because they say Hamas won't confirm which hostages are still alive. There is of course a lot of positioning and temporising going on, but Hamas are in some existential difficulty once they surrender the hostages, so I wouldn't necessarily blame the whole problem on the Israelis.