US Immigration Crisis
I didn’t see an immigration thread so I figured I would add one. This problem seems to be worsening everyday of the current admin. Hopefully some of our new elected officials can help with this. Mr. Luttrell is a great start
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I think you'll find that 14.3% is less than 14.7%. Mind you, the 2023 number is a projection anyway.
Lol. Even the 2020 number is projection on that chart. It's in red not to make you think of projection, but to think we're in the danger zone.
If you read the chart closely, it shows that immigrants went from 13.6% of the population in 1900 all the way to 12.9% of the population in 2010.
foreign born yes.
and now we are over the historical peak (since we have records)
fyp
Being foreign born yourself, you might not know that the census is every 10 years.
ye sure and it's illegal to ask people if they are foreign born lol
Dunno what you're trying to say there. You have just been factually wrong the whole time. The numbers for 2020 and beyond on your chart are projections. No one asked anyone anything for that "data".
Using "ye" like that is not a thing in English. Are you talking to Kanye?
The chart says it's based on census data bro. It says what parts are projections.
It is hard to get past the fear mongering red bars though. Where'd you get that chart? I see it up as the Center for Immigration Studies
CIS’s much-touted tagline is “low immigration, pro-immigrant,” but the organization has a decades-long history of circulating racist writers, while also associating with white nationalists.
trolly, I am still waiting for a response on your personal attack.
A simple apology along the lines of "Sorry, I drank too much of the left's kool-aid about calling everyone on the right sexist, racist, etc. I am too stupid to argue against your logic with anything but made up personal attacks." would work for me.
You will never see an apology from him you get the line from the left if your against illegal immigration you hate brown people. Legal immigration is good but it comes with pitfalls as well if you do not have the housing, and services to accommodate those individuals
That's not a failure of immigration but a failure of government to provide resources from the extra tax revenues they'll be getting.
It's too easy for them to fail to increase services, give tax cuts before elections and blame the problems they've created on immigrants.
Well then immigration is clearly good for the US, the most wealthy society that's ever existed. I don't know why you guys were so worried?
The Denver mayor will be excited to learn that he has extra tax revenues to provide resources to migrants, and can cancel his 15% across the board budget cuts.
The obvious answer is to let them work legally, collect the tax revenues and develop services.
FWIW, I don't have any problem in concept with policies that are intended to entice highly skilled immigrants to come to the United States. For example, I have no problem with an accelerated path to full citizenship for immigrants who have advanced degrees (either from U.S. colleges/universities or equivalent schools overseas) in areas that are national priority, which I'm sure would include STEM at a minimum. This wouldn't be a huge step. It is already much easier for highly trained immigrants fields to get a green card, and I suspect that a lot of people here would be fine with extending that policy to citizenship.
Isn't the green card generally just a precursor to citizenship? Without googling I think those are good for 10 years. It's the work visas (which are the precursors themselves to green cards) that they need to make easier to obtain.
A green card allows you to be a permanent resident. You can apply for naturalization (i.e., full citizenship) after three years of permanent residency if you are married to a U.S. citizen, and after five years if you are not married to a U.S. citizen.
Healthcare professions on general, nurse included, even lower skilled than that included.
It is not so much easier to get a green card for a trained nurse currently afaik
Wow not sure how this works out for Tyson Foods
Tyson has been using undocumented workers for at least 25 years.
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/20/us/ty...
Story here from 2001. People don't really want to work at chicken processing facilities.
Tyson produces 20% of the meat in the USA and no one knows where their meat comes from, so the supposed boycott won't do anything.
Tyson is talking about hiring 80000 immigrants/asylum seekers.
Brilliant article on this
You know what would happen if far fewer low skilled immigrants willing to work in chicken processing facilities were available?
More automation IE more productivity, better per Capita GDP, without social costs.
A few more high skilled jobs that allow for a fulfilling life, family formation, decent housing for the tech guys.
And ofc higher wages for low skilled Americans in the short term phase until the automation comes online.
You are advocating for the slowdown of technological progress to get modest short term gains (in company profits and cheap chicken availability), and significant quality of life loss externalized upon people who have to pay the social costs of low quality immigration.
In the medium long term everyone is worse off including capital owners, except perhaps those low skilled immigrants which weren't even part of your social utility function as a country to begin with