US Immigration Crisis
I didn’t see an immigration thread so I figured I would add one. This problem seems to be worsening everyday of the current admin. Hopefully some of our new elected officials can help with this. Mr. Luttrell is a great start
Using "ye" like that is not a thing in English. Are you talking to Kanye?
It is hard to get past the fear mongering red bars though. Where'd you get that chart? I see it up as the Center for Immigration Studies
CIS’s much-touted tagline is “low immigration, pro-immigrant,” but the organization has a decades-long history of circulating racist writers, while also associating with white nationalists.
It looks like the way America has traditionally operated back before Fox News radicalized you into hating immigrants. People come over looking for work, they set up shop.
Just to be clear, you are responding to my post where I started by saying “Agreed, that immigration is a net positive long-term in the US (and most other countries) and I see no reason that will change in the future.” And you think I hate immigrants?
In the rest of my post I throw out an idea I think will help lure MORE immigrants to the US and I discuss a plan to give them citizenship.
One of us has definitely been radicalized,
trolly, I am still waiting for a response on your personal attack.
A simple apology along the lines of "Sorry, I drank too much of the left's kool-aid about calling everyone on the right sexist, racist, etc. I am too stupid to argue against your logic with anything but made up personal attacks." would work for me.
trolly, I am still waiting for a response on your personal attack.
A simple apology along the lines of "Sorry, I drank too much of the left's kool-aid about calling everyone on the right sexist, racist, etc. I am too stupid to argue against your logic with anything but made up personal attacks." would work for me.
You will never see an apology from him you get the line from the left if your against illegal immigration you hate brown people. Legal immigration is good but it comes with pitfalls as well if you do not have the housing, and services to accommodate those individuals
That's not a failure of immigration but a failure of government to provide resources from the extra tax revenues they'll be getting.
It's too easy for them to fail to increase services, give tax cuts before elections and blame the problems they've created on immigrants.
That's not a failure of immigration but a failure of government to provide resources from the extra tax revenues they'll be getting.
It's too easy for them to fail to increase services, give tax cuts before elections and blame the problems they've created on immigrants.
The Denver mayor will be excited to learn that he has extra tax revenues to provide resources to migrants, and can cancel his 15% across the board budget cuts.
The obvious answer is to let them work legally, collect the tax revenues and develop services.
Agreed, that immigration is a net positive long-term in the US (and most other countries) and I see no reason that will change in the future. I think the more interesting conversation is that if most immigrants are economic contributors to our society and that is important to us why wouldn't we focus our immigration policy on luring immigrants that are going to contribute more than an average immigrant which is what happens with open border
FWIW, I don't have any problem in concept with policies that are intended to entice highly skilled immigrants to come to the United States. For example, I have no problem with an accelerated path to full citizenship for immigrants who have advanced degrees (either from U.S. colleges/universities or equivalent schools overseas) in areas that are national priority, which I'm sure would include STEM at a minimum. This wouldn't be a huge step. It is already much easier for highly trained immigrants fields to get a green card, and I suspect that a lot of people here would be fine with extending that policy to citizenship.
FWIW, I don't have any problem in concept with policies that are intended to entice highly skilled immigrants to come to the United States. For example, I have no problem with an accelerated path to full citizenship for immigrants who have advanced degrees (either from U.S. colleges/universities or equivalent schools overseas) in areas that are national priority, which I'm sure would include STEM at a minimum. This wouldn't be a huge step.
Isn't the green card generally just a precursor to citizenship? Without googling I think those are good for 10 years. It's the work visas (which are the precursors themselves to green cards) that they need to make easier to obtain.
A green card allows you to be a permanent resident. You can apply for naturalization (i.e., full citizenship) after three years of permanent residency if you are married to a U.S. citizen, and after five years if you are not married to a U.S. citizen.
FWIW, I don't have any problem in concept with policies that are intended to entice highly skilled immigrants to come to the United States. For example, I have no problem with an accelerated path to full citizenship for immigrants who have advanced degrees (either from U.S. colleges/universities or equivalent schools overseas) in areas that are national priority, which I'm sure would include STEM at a minimum. This wouldn't be a huge step.
Healthcare professions on general, nurse included, even lower skilled than that included.
It is not so much easier to get a green card for a trained nurse currently afaik
Wow not sure how this works out for Tyson Foods
Tyson has been using undocumented workers for at least 25 years.
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/20/us/ty...
Story here from 2001. People don't really want to work at chicken processing facilities.
Tyson produces 20% of the meat in the USA and no one knows where their meat comes from, so the supposed boycott won't do anything.
Tyson is talking about hiring 80000 immigrants/asylum seekers.
Tyson has been using undocumented workers for at least 25 years.
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/20/us/ty...
Story here from 2001. People don't really want to work at chicken processing facilities.
Brilliant article on this
Tyson has been using undocumented workers for at least 25 years.
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/20/us/ty...
Story here from 2001. People don't really want to work at chicken processing facilities.
You know what would happen if far fewer low skilled immigrants willing to work in chicken processing facilities were available?
More automation IE more productivity, better per Capita GDP, without social costs.
A few more high skilled jobs that allow for a fulfilling life, family formation, decent housing for the tech guys.
And ofc higher wages for low skilled Americans in the short term phase until the automation comes online.
You are advocating for the slowdown of technological progress to get modest short term gains (in company profits and cheap chicken availability), and significant quality of life loss externalized upon people who have to pay the social costs of low quality immigration.
In the medium long term everyone is worse off including capital owners, except perhaps those low skilled immigrants which weren't even part of your social utility function as a country to begin with
