Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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IDK about this strategy, but it could and should be much better.
you didnt even take the time to read your own link.
no not usually. have you ever read my posts?
I did read about the 2017 revisions. But which one do you think was in effect when Hamas was voted into office in 2007?
Don't worry, it's not a trick question.
So, you can blame the people of the west for the actions of their leadership, but I can't blame the people of Gaza for the actions of theirs. Got it.
is this a joke? how many civilians has Ukraine killed since 2014? and since the invasion?
you dont see me advocating for Russia to obliterate the whole country and starve the population like Israel does.
no I dont generally blame the people of a country for the actions of their ruling class.
I saw the first part of your intro saying it was from sacred text and missed the part about its inclusion in the original Hamas Charter. My bad. I have undeleted that post.
Do you realize that 2014 is the year that Russia invaded Ukraine? Why would that be your start date for this?
And no, I don't know. What is the stat?
I'll get right on that, as soon as I finish banning everyone and have some free time. 😉
Of course this is a lie, I've said nothing like that.
The equivalent would be something like me saying it's okay to kill someone's child as punishment for the time they voted for W Bush and the Iraq Wars. Of course that's psychopathic but somehow it's okay to treat Palestinians this way. Because they're so bloodhitrsty and tribal, you see.
Of course the people supporting this campaign also have bigoted, dehumanizing views of Muslims in general. I guess this was all about punishing them for their religion?
do you realize 1948 is the year that Israel invaded Palestine?
no, but hamas leadership should prepare to evacuate asap
No, just my mistake for missing the reference to the Hamas Charter. The post was undeleted.
It's not a lie for me to say that you seem to want to blame other members of this forum for things thst israel does. It certainly seems that way to me. If that's not how you actually think, then maybe you should change the way you post.
why would anyone blame posters on 2p2 for the actions of the genocidal Israeli regime?
do you understand how much of an unhinged criticism this is?
- 1. why did they take 3 weeks to retaliate?(to give civilians time to move)
- 2. why haven't they entered rafah yet?
- 3. why are they setting up safe camps?
Hamas believes it's good pr for them when civilians die
They have no plans to help with an evacuation
You think that Israel has been in a hot war with Palestine since 1948? You really don't think that for example, if one of the Koreas attacked the other it would be a bit different compared to the constant escalations by Russia? Whatever, let's go with it:
Since 1948 how many Israeli civilians have been killed by Gazans?
How many Russian civilians were killed by Ukraine since 2014?
How many of each were terrorist attacks?
Does this mean that both, or either, deserve the full scale invasion? Remember that I'm arguing that neither deserve it.
I agree that neither deserve it as well. when you mentioned Oct 7 then I misunderstood the implication.
I don't know why do you blame us?
Hey Victor, check this out.
There is a disussion in ATF about a replacement for browser. IT is a dumb discussion based on a lie.
I dont know if they are joking or not, or if some are just ignorant to the facts, but i suspect they are not (AT least some) and this is very bad. I suspect this will bring problems and would mean your posting ITT has ended. I suspect crossnerd is very biased from her recent posts in this forum.
So if you want your voice to be heard, I suggest you say something in ATF.
ALL OF YOU.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55/ab...
Or we get a bad mod instead of browser who cancels everything, and bans every other post, poster and view.
loool at hamas evacuating civilians. obviously not on the agenda
i mean evacuate themselves
That is certainly a lie. I've made it clear the blame should fall on Netanyahu and Hamas and not on the people of Israel or Palestine as a whole.
On the other hand, you guys *constantly* try to blur the lines between civilians and combatants. Now you're even smearing all Muslims as whole. The self-defense rationale is wearing thin after 31,000 deaths so we need a new way to demonize the people being wiped out.
That was a sarcastic post by Crossnerd, she is not a mod so is not one of the people being considered to moderate Politics, and this is not the thread for moderation discussion.