Ukraine-Russia War Take 2
Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:
The site was hit with a massive spam attack where hundreds of spam threads were created. In the case where, for example, I see a single spam thread and delete it, that is called a soft delete, and mods can still see them but forum members cannot. Those deletion can be undone.
When a massive attack hits with hundreds of threads, an admin uses a different procedure where the hundreds of spam threads are merged and then hard deleted, where the threads are gone, and no note is left behind. As I have mentioned with my own experience of just soft deleting a large number of posts, sometimes a post or thread gets checked or merged accidentally and is deleted by mistake. Dealing with hundreds of spam threads takes a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.
It appears that our Ukraine thread may have gotten caught up in that recent net of spam threads. If so, it is likely gone for good. I cant say this for sure, and am awaiting comments from admins on this issue. Yes, this sucks. And hopefully there was some other software glitch that caused the disappearance, and we may recover it in the future.
But in the meantime, I have created this new Ukraine-Russia War thread to enable the conversation to continue. Obviously continuity with earlier discussions will be lost. There is no way around that. So as best as possible, let's pick up the conversation with recent events and go from there.
If you have any questions about this, please post them in the mod thread, not here. Let's keep this thread going with posts about the war, not the disappearance of the old thread.
Thanks.
How did the Zelenskyy election go? Oh wait.
ya things in the 90s were so democratic in Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russi...
Yeltsin literally bombed the parliament.
and, no election interference.
'remember the 1996 elections (warts and all) and recall that Russians are perfectly capable of competitive politics, when it's available to them.'
You've missed the point.
"Fair" after the prerigging?
He won 73% of the vote in a fair and free election, making him president of Ukraine.
he canceled the last election
False, Zelenskyy did not cancel elections. As you've been told multiple times now, elections are not held when the country is under martial law.
one neat trick for democracy without elections
Are you suggesting that Zelenskyy declares martial law and the parliament approves it not because of the invasion and existential threat that Ukraine faces, but so that Zelenskyy can remain in power without an election?
well ya
great documentary on russia since ww2 on netflix rn
PW, here is your EW resistant drone, pretty wild. I don't think it's really viable for any kind of suicide drone, but could be useful for a reusable recon drone:
what does Banderyk mean?
Are you suggesting that Zelenskyy declares martial law and the parliament approves it not because of the invasion and existential threat that Ukraine faces, but so that Zelenskyy can remain in power without an election?
cant fault the russian propaganda ministry. nothing else works in that country, but my god they do a fine job
It was not the response I was expecting.
from the latest WOTR episode on youtube: the two biggest motivators for getting "volunteers" for Russia's assault groups are execution/threat of execution, and also wives/girlfriends saying they need more money.
from the latest WOTR episode on youtube: the two biggest motivators for getting "volunteers" for Russia's assault groups are execution/threat of execution, and also wives/girlfriends saying they need more money.
What is WOTR?
Are you talking about how Russia recruits troops are Ukraine as I have heard bad stories on both sides
Also many Russian women love the death benefits they receive
Rulers in power do what they can to stay in power. Putin, trump, Zelensky, bibi, etc
lozen: War on the Rocks. They are pretty much the best source for info on Ukraine.
This was not about recruitment, but about how troops are "motivated" to go on assaults with large casualty ratios. The two biggest motivators are threat of execution and girlfriends/wives telling their partner they could use the extra money.
putin took office three decades ago and has subsequently won all his 'elections' by about fifty percentage points over the closest 'rival'
zelensky took office four years ago and suspended elections due to the fact that there are 300,000 enemy combatants roaming around in his country
=/=
Where the idea that Zelenskyy wants to stay in power, and is even faking the need for martial law (or he orchestrated the entire invasion), came from is beyond me. He ran on only wanting one term. He said he will not run again after the war. There's no reason not to believe him.
It's silly.
Where the idea that Zelenskyy wants to stay in power, and is even faking the need for martial law (or he orchestrated the entire invasion), came from is beyond me. He ran on only wanting one term. He said he will not run again after the war. There's no reason not to believe him.
It's silly.
that idea came from you, just now. did anyone else say that?
You do realize he can need martial law and also do things to keep himself in power
are you arguing that Zelensky isnt trying to keep himself in power? yes or no
Are you suggesting that Zelenskyy declares martial law and the parliament approves it not because of the invasion and existential threat that Ukraine faces, but so that Zelenskyy can remain in power without an election?
Rulers in power do what they can to stay in power. Putin, trump, Zelensky, bibi, etc
lol
Please post where anyone besides BGp said Z was faking the need
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It's been quoted twice on this page, and the original is on this page as well.
yea none of those say "faking the need"
