Ukraine-Russia War Take 2
Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:
The site was hit with a massive spam attack where hundreds of spam threads were created. In the case where, for example, I see a single spam thread and delete it, that is called a soft delete, and mods can still see them but forum members cannot. Those deletion can be undone.
When a massive attack hits with hundreds of threads, an admin uses a different procedure where the hundreds of spam threads are merged and then hard deleted, where the threads are gone, and no note is left behind. As I have mentioned with my own experience of just soft deleting a large number of posts, sometimes a post or thread gets checked or merged accidentally and is deleted by mistake. Dealing with hundreds of spam threads takes a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.
It appears that our Ukraine thread may have gotten caught up in that recent net of spam threads. If so, it is likely gone for good. I cant say this for sure, and am awaiting comments from admins on this issue. Yes, this sucks. And hopefully there was some other software glitch that caused the disappearance, and we may recover it in the future.
But in the meantime, I have created this new Ukraine-Russia War thread to enable the conversation to continue. Obviously continuity with earlier discussions will be lost. There is no way around that. So as best as possible, let's pick up the conversation with recent events and go from there.
If you have any questions about this, please post them in the mod thread, not here. Let's keep this thread going with posts about the war, not the disappearance of the old thread.
Thanks.
Also fwiw I think even before ISIS said they did it they were the most likely to be responsible.
Ukraine or false flag are extremely unlikely.
Could possibly be the Chechens? ISIS are the trolls of terrorism. They claimed responsibility for the Las Vegas shooting iirc. I'd personally take any claim of theirs with a large barrel of salt. Not saying they aren't responsible either to clarify but they're not exactly a reliable source.
Chechen war is long over, mate.
What are u smoking? 😆
supposedly these guys were Tajiks. Putin is putting some blame on Ukraine, claiming they were fleeing to an intentional opening there. lets see if he goes all genocidal like the Zionists. Id guess not, and hope not.
hmm, wonder how the knew what was going to happen and then didnt give the Russians enough info to stop it. you are starting to convince me.
Not hard to think they might be able to intercept communication without necessarily having the exact location of the people planning an attack, nor enough details on who they are to identify them before the attack
more likely they have actual assets in those groups
Victor,
There have been like 10 ISIS, or related Islamist, mass casualty terrorist attacks in the last week throughout the world. Are the Jews behind all of them, or just this one?
I never said Jews were behind any of them. why lie so much?
Victor,
There have been like 10 ISIS, or related Islamist, mass casualty terrorist attacks in the last week throughout the world. Are the Jews behind all of them, or just this one?
They're probably behind the Iranian one as Iran are vic's bff's as well, so y'know.. [strike]Jews[/strike] Zionists.
you dont understand the word specific
supposedly these guys were Tajiks. Putin is putting some blame on Ukraine, claiming they were fleeing to an intentional opening there. lets see if he goes all genocidal like the Zionists. Id guess not, and hope not.
The US believed that the group intending to launch such an MFA (marauding firearms attack, as in the 2015 Bataclan attack in Paris) was ISIS-K, also known as IS Khorasan, a group so mad that it actually carries out attacks on the Taliban for not being mad enough. ISIS-K may have members in Tajikistan, and a Russian parliamentarian has claimed that Tajik passports were found in the arrested men's car. Russia is an IS target due to the Chechenya situation. Blaming the whole thing on Ukraine, as Putin has done, is just Putin being Putin.
hmm, wonder how the knew what was going to happen and then didnt give the Russians enough info to stop it. you are starting to convince me.
Or you might ask why the Russians, having the info ('Islamist terrorists are going to target a concert in the Moscow area'), failed to impose the necessary security. It's not like the Kremlin is short of armed security goons.
The US believed that the group intending to launch such an MFA (marauding firearms attack, as in the 2015 Bataclan attack in Paris) was ISIS-K, also known as IS Khorasan, a group so mad that it actually carries out attacks on the Taliban for not being mad enough. ISIS-K may have members in Tajikistan, and a Russian parliamentarian has claimed that Tajik passports were found in the arrested men's car.
I thought it was a potential ISIS target also because of the long standing alliance with Iran, and because if what Russia did in Syria
Nasty vid circulating on x-twitter showing what appear to be Russian security forces cutting off a crocus attack suspect's ear and forcing him to eat it.
nasty vid of those guys straight up executing people, including a large group cowering in a corner.
apparently they all have the same story that they were recruited on Telegram by unknown people who paid them a couple grand and provided he weaponry.
nasty vid of those guys straight up executing people, including a large group cowering in a corner.
Which justifies cutting a suspect's ear off and forcing him to eat it? By that rationale, any IDF action including atrocities is justified, no?
apparently they all have the same story that they were recruited on Telegram by unknown people who paid them a couple grand and provided he weaponry.
Maybe the others wanted to keep their ears? Nothing they say under torture is reliable. I can only imagine your response if it was a vid of Ukrainian soldiers doing this to Russian pows.
Which justifies cutting a suspect's ear off and forcing him to eat it? By that rationale, any IDF action including atrocities is justified, no?
Maybe the others wanted to keep their ears? Nothing they say under torture is reliable. I can only imagine your response if it was a vid of Ukrainian soldiers doing this to Russian pows.
did I say it justified anything? why do you guys lie so much?
Yes you clearly implied it as if not then just wtf did your comment even mean?? You just jump to the defence of any non western power in a knee jerk manner it seems, due to West Bad Everyone Else Good. So yeah you clearly implied it, otherwise your comment is simply pointless dribble and sorry but pointless words is our resident pointless dribble guy, whereas you're our resident apologist, hence my observation of your implication.
no I didnt imply it lol. theres a lot of nasty videos about this incident.
I didnt see him eat the ear or see it described. and no! before you jump down my throat, that does not "clearly imply" that I dont think it happened or that I think you are making it up. it simply means that I did not see that part of the video.
Maybe the others wanted to keep their ears? Nothing they say under torture is reliable. I can only imagine your response if it was a vid of Ukrainian soldiers doing this to Russian pows.
however, this part doesnt make sense. if they wanted to keep their ears and not get tortured or lessen the torture, then this is about the worst story they can tell bc it is quite obv bullshit.
however, this part doesnt make sense. if they wanted to keep their ears and not get tortured or lessen the torture, then this is about the worst story they can tell bc it is quite obv bullshit.
Vic if you want to Stan for evil you gotta learn to not comment some stuff at some points in time otherwise it gets too obvious
I'm not standing for anyone. I just don't believe their story as told by subtitles on dodgy Twitter accounts.
Do you?
Lol
Did I say it?
Yes you implied it
Implying it is not saying it.
