Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
**** is probably treated as a string whereas **** is treated as a word, and since bullshit is a separate word it's not banned.
So does everyone think it’s workable for a moderator to define parameters for posting and posters to then say “lol what a ****ing joke!” and willfully ignore those parameters? Because that’s what happened here.
Mets has behavioral issues when it comes to authority and following boundaries he doesn’t agree with. A short break for posters who can’t follow rules is an easy way to modify those behaviors. Some people are more resistant than othe
Viewing mods as any kind of 'authority' (as opposed to random middle-aged men sitting in their basements, probably in their underpants, delighting in how much pointless aggravation they can cause and then pretend to remedy for the sake of personal self-perceived validation) may be where you went wrong.
I think in general many of you are unfair in your summations and treatment of Browser. I’ve said my piece, I’ll bow out of this discussion for the sake of not clogging the thread further while the mod is out of commission- something maybe some of you ought to consider doing as well.
Enjoying the taste of the polish on jackboots is a slightly (though sadly not very) unusual kink.
**** is probably treated as a string whereas **** is treated as a word, and since bullshit is a separate word it's not banned.
"Word" is not a data type, at least, not the sort of data type you are thinking of. All text is strings, there is obviously just different logic for some banned strings, which allows them through when not delimited by spaces or punctuation on both sides.
ETA:
****.
****/
****:
Shita
****,
Only the one that is part of a "word" is allowed.
Viewing mods as any kind of 'authority' (as opposed to random middle-aged men sitting in their basements, probably in their underpants, delighting in how much pointless aggravation they can cause and then pretend to remedy for the sake of personal self-perceived validation) may be where you went wrong.
I think you’re possibly projecting. A moderator, by definition, has the authority to enforce site rules.
It's not so much the content, it was the argument the content was used to support. He was banned for attempting to perpetuate the racist idea that Palestinians don't care about their children and only have children to support a holy war against their betters, the chose Jewish children of light aka Zionists.
Ofc, in principle I don't support bans in general nor this one.
But I guess really he was banned bc browser told him not to post that trash anymore and he just went Leroy Jenkins.
I just don't want to downplay his reprehensible posting.
-Just for the record, you guys are all outraged when Palestinians are dehumanized. But calling Jews/Israelis/Zionists 'ghouls' accompanied with obviously fake stories of rape and torture to justify the dehumanization is completely fine, correct?
-Just for the record, you guys are all outraged when Palestinians are dehumanized. But calling Jews/Israelis/Zionists 'ghouls' accompanied with obviously fake stories of rape and torture to justify the dehumanization is completely fine, correct?
Yes victor is allowed to fully dehumanize Israelis if he links to pro Hamas sources
-Just for the record, you guys are all outraged when Palestinians are dehumanized. But calling Jews/Israelis/Zionists 'ghouls' accompanied with obviously fake stories of rape and torture to justify the dehumanization is completely fine, correct?
Can we refer to Nazi's as ghouls? Bc it's the same picture at this point.
Also, all Jews are not Zionists and all Zionists are not Jews so I see your sleight of hand. It won't work with me.
I’m sure that could have been debated in a way that didn’t result in his banning, but alas
Well I don't doubt that, but when Mets is posting that article from Daily Kos what he is effectively saying is that "look, this stuff is so standard and a part of the discourse that even left-leaning Daily Kos has a piece on it". Browser should have been able to understand that regardless of Mets' lack of tact.
I mean I understand the basic operating system liberals are working from. They believe whites/Jews are operating from a position of power and privilege and should be held to a higher moral standard. The only problem is at some point you should actually look at the results you are getting and see if the system is working.
I would say the last 80 years of infantilization of Palestinians and more generally allowing bad faith tribal behavior from Arabs/Muslims while holding whites/Jews to higher standards is in fact not working at all. Holding Israeli's to impossibly high moral standards is just creating bitterness, and infantilizing and allowing bad faith behavior from Palestinians is just encouraging more of the same.
No one is benefiting from this, except parties that directly benefit from dysfunction, such as actors like Hamas and Netanyahu.
dont you ever call me a liberal. I will put up with a lot, but that is the vilest of insults and I have reported this post and notified my lawyers and the law enforcement authorities to proceed with using the fullest extent of the law to protect myself from such disgusting slander.
dont you ever call me a liberal. I will put up with a lot, but that is the vilest of insults and I have reported this post and notified my lawyers and the law enforcement authorities to proceed with using the fullest extent of the law to protect myself from such disgusting slander.
I dont think you are a liberal, and I was certainly not speaking to you. You dont have any liberal values (or at least the character you play over the Internet doesn't) and you certainly dont hold Israeli's to higher standards. You don't view them as humans at all.
I dont think Zionists should be treated like Palestinians. they can be reformed maybe. might need some reeducation camps.
we hush our adult conversations when the thought police/workplace moderators are around.
browser seems adept at his moderator position but the line of what you can/can't talk about should be moved, imo. "feelings" are taken into account far too often.
i long for the old days of 2p2 where it was common to tell someone to die in a grease fire and not have to worry about being banned.
