Omaha Journey to High Stakes

Omaha Journey to High Stakes

Hi,

I had previously created a pb&c thread, but since I achieved most of my short and mid term goals I figured a new one was in order.

I have played Omaha for roughly 1.5 years.

Currently in an Omaha stable playing 1/2 PLO online.

Gym, school, poker is my life right now 😀

I want to grind up to high stakes PLO and play against some of the toughest competition.

After I grind a roll with the stable I want to transition primarily to live PLO and maybe also travel for good PLO games.

Primarily things I want to work on are eating more healthy, and not losing confidence in my plays when I am losing.

graph of January so far!


23 January 2022 at 05:45 AM
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by KnoxKnoxJoke P

I've lost 35bi on a site that I've historically crushed. Seems pretty logical to make sure the games are clean before dumping the rest of my money on there. Was just open with some other tables I was playing, wasn't watching too closely.

It's weird that when you uptick it's because you are soul reading and playing great but when you lose you get incredibly paranoid about collusion, bots, and cheating. You admitted yourself that your study habits are trash and oftentimes it's basically background noise to you. Imo anyone who is consistently crying about bots/cheating/collusion is likely just not a great player (or not trying hard enough) considering table and site selection are basic skills.

You seem like a loose cannon.


by Iskovic P

How do you build up an 800bb pot on T92 with T976ss? Sorry but that is just variance galore.

preflop we raise, call call squeeze call call or smth, whale pots flop at SPR 4.5


by swerbs22 P

It's weird that when you uptick it's because you are soul reading and playing great but when you lose you get incredibly paranoid about collusion, bots, and cheating. You admitted yourself that your study habits are trash and oftentimes it's basically background noise to you. Imo anyone who is consistently crying about bots/cheating/collusion is likely just not a great player (or not trying hard enough) considering table and site selection

This post is completely nonsense and I'm not sure exactly what you're saying. I openly admit to being too paranoid about cheating. The link between that and it being a skill issue is unsubstantiated. This isn't a case of me having a tough time beating 200s, I am beating 1ks on this site ffs. In fact, I'd go as far to say if I am not winning over a large sample of 200s on Global, then it is OVERWHELMINGLY likely to be cheating. I am guessing you don't play on this site.


Have to drop everything but 100s and 50s. Really ****ing sucks man.

I have no idea how I downswing 50bi on Playnow, but just checked my transactions and apparently I'm down about 10k there in about 5k hands over the last month. It's definitely more than 50BI at 1/2 as well, because I was crushing people at 2/4.

Going to have to seriously manage my spending as well now, I'm going to barely be making enough to pay for school. And completely at the mercy of what games end up running on Global. If only 200s run, I just can't play that night.

Need about 5k more for 1/2 I guess? I have no idea what's even responsible anymore. If I just listened to my ****ing gut things would be so much better. Would have dropped Playnow and saved infinite, still would be at 200s. I know I'm getting cheated there, I'm just not exactly sure how. I'm getting annihilated in games with 4-5 40%+ vpip fish - this is completely insane to me.

Pretty sure if I drop Playnow and stick to my commitment of not playing there, I will be fine.

Am I just tilting in these Playnow games? Unlikely, as I am putting up results within a reasonable range on other sites. Still downswinging right now obviously, but it's a "reasonable" downswing.


Bro, are you in some kind of hurry?

Pay less attention to people who sound like Charlie Carrel.

Do yourself a favour and just grind the **** out of 50 for 1 week, see what happens. Think of it like a soft reset.


Getting publicly accused of collusion on Global in game - immediately kills games... Lol! Ironic.


In your shoes i'd study more than I played and quit when starting to play worse than A game during a session. If you don't study and you tilt, you're NGMI in 2024 online poker.


by OVERSTIMULATED P

In your shoes i'd study more than I played and quit when starting to play worse than A game during a session. If you don't study and you tilt, you're NGMI in 2024 online poker.

dude's never ran a sim in his life and thinks he can beat 1k+, ngmi bruh.


Saying you need about 5k more to play 1-2, then sitting at 1-2 tables with your coach is very ironic.


by Regretzz P

dude's never ran a sim in his life and thinks he can beat 1k+, ngmi bruh.

yeah, totally...


by RevisFan P

Saying you need about 5k more to play 1-2, then sitting at 1-2 tables with your coach is very ironic.

Had a little bit more of the 1k 200s shot I mentioned. How about instead of killing the games with ******ed accusations you just let ppl play the game ffs. If you had half a brain it would be obvious we aren't colluding, I'm literally getting scooped AA vs AA pre vs my "coach" LOL. I'll be back at 200s in a week to take your money with or without spork at the table.


by KnoxKnoxJoke P

yeah, totally...

lol, deluded. you have 0 ability for self introspection. i hope you don't go busto, i doubt anyone would stake you after reading this mess.


For those who don't know, I have been accused of using preflop RTA in the past - heard about it from a reg on Playnow. Now being accused of colluding with Spork. Beyond obvious I'm not doing either of those, often playing 6-9 tables, Spork and I RARELY sit on the same table, we don't even play the same hours for the most part.

No idea why people are pushing this narrative so hard, but there was a period on Global when people were avoiding me and games would break when I sit down. Later figured out it was because of the preflop RTA accusations. Now another completely unsubstantiated accusation, either to tilt me? Or kill my action? I have no idea.

I'm not interested in appealing to my ethics, because nobody really knows me. But for the accusations being thrown around for the past ~4 months, it should be clear that it is simply not possible for me to be using RTA, and at least HIGHLY HIGHLY UNLIKELY that I am colluding with ANYONE.


by Regretzz P

lol, deluded. you have 0 ability for self introspection. i hope you don't go busto, i doubt anyone would stake you after reading this mess.

It's just funny because I literally have ran sims and obviously I study.


by KnoxKnoxJoke P

It's just funny because I literally have ran sims and obviously I study.

That's good, then clearly the only thing left to do is work on your entitlement tilt/mental game issues. Iirc, whatwonder also posted that you have huge mental game leaks. I hope it works out bro, if you go broke at 50 or 100 can't really cry about colluding/cheating.


Am I misremembering things or didn't you accuse Spork of using RTA in the past? If he's now your coach and you're now sometimes playing at the same table as him and he's your coach surely that can be seen as dodgy? For someone who cries about collusion and cheating so frequently surely it makes sense to play on a different site/table instead of sitting at the same table as your coach?


by PLO&GO P

Am I misremembering things or didn't you accuse Spork of using RTA in the past? If he's now your coach and you're now sometimes playing at the same table as him and he's your coach surely that can be seen as dodgy? For someone who cries about collusion and cheating so frequently surely it makes sense to play on a different site/table instead of sitting at the same table as your coach?

No there’s a whole thing between spork and a guy called squid, can prolly google “twoplustwo spork cheating” and read abt it, but cliffs is spork used to be part of an RTA stable. I don’t really see it as dodgy, he’s coached a surprising number of ppl on global. Even a couple ppl that play 10/20. I understand if ppl had incomplete information it could be concerning though.


by KnoxKnoxJoke P

No there’s a whole thing between spork and a guy called squid, can prolly google “twoplustwo spork cheating” and read abt it, but cliffs is spork used to be part of an RTA stable. I don’t really see it as dodgy, he’s coached a surprising number of ppl on global. Even a couple ppl that play 10/20. I understand if ppl had incomplete information it could be concerning though.

IDK if this quote thing has worked but how can you see someone who used to be part of RTA stable not be dodgy? Isn't global notoriously **** at detecting cheating? I wouldn't feel comfortable playing with either of you on my table, especially both of you.


by PLO&GO P

IDK if this quote thing has worked but how can you see someone who used to be part of RTA stable not be dodgy? Isn't global notoriously **** at detecting cheating? I wouldn't feel comfortable playing with either of you on my table, especially both of you.

Well I feel like people can change, and at the time desperately needed to improve my technical game. And despite the cheating stuff spork has a reputation for having an excellent technical game and excellent coaching method. My opinion doesn’t matter much on here, but I don’t think it’s warranted feeling uncomfortable playing with me. If we did play, I think it would pretty clear I’m not cheating. At least with how badly I play compared to a computer. If I thought spork was cheating when I was looking for coaching, obviously I wouldn’t go for it.

I can understand feeling uncomfortable playing with spork. But with me I’ve never actually had an issue with cheating. So I don’t think it should be a concern.

But either way wherever you choose to sit is up to you. My issue is telling the table half the story, ending up killing the action when I’m just sitting there and grinding, trying to escape this downswing.


Your peers actions reflect on you. If you choose to seek out coaching from a known RTA user you can't be surprised when those accusations are also thrown onto you. There are loads of PLO coaches out there and you just so happen to choose the one who has been involved in the cheating you are so against. Pot calling kettle black.

If I was at a table with a known RTA user and his student I'd hope someone would tell me. That isn't killing your action that's protecting the pool from being potentially cheated out of money. You're right people can change but why would someone known for using RTA and not being banned suddenly stop? Doesn't make sense to me.


by PLO&GO P

Your peers actions reflect on you. If you choose to seek out coaching from a known RTA user you can't be surprised when those accusations are also thrown onto you. There are loads of PLO coaches out there and you just so happen to choose the one who has been involved in the cheating you are so against. Pot calling kettle black.

If I was at a table with a known RTA user and his student I'd hope someone would tell me. That isn't killing your

Didn’t seek him out by any stretch, was recommended to join his server (had no idea of his history at the time), and he had some connection to a player I have a lot of respect for. He directly offered to coach me when I was tilting hard from massive downswing for the 16th time.

You’re right in the fact that I don’t really know if spork is using RTA atm. I really hope not. I would hope people could have a change of heart and see what they are doing is wrong. No hint of RTA in our training. Just working through sims, trying to see what matters and what doesn’t matter, trying to create heuristics to use in a practical gameplan. And overall improving accuracy.

To be honest, didn’t realize quite how bad his reputation was until we had started working together. Same with another of squids old stable that approached me offering coaching/staking. I had no idea of the guys history in that case.

Don’t think it’s really fair to hold against me in either case.

And if you play with Spork these days it should be pretty clear he’s not using RTA. Very sharp, very precise, but also clearly very far from computer play. Despite this, people including regs still are fixated on this RTA thing. Honestly it’s in a very similar way to how I tilt and call out cheating even where there is none. Just seeking to blame downswing on external factors. However differently from my case, it is actually having an effect on some people that I find unfair.


Ah yes, Zhuang "John" Ruan. A guy who made millions cheating US online poker with RTA through his own play and his horses. Zhuang Ruan and his players are real scum. You should think long and hard about associating (or continuing to associate) with any of them.


by KnoxKnoxJoke P

Didn’t seek him out by any stretch, was recommended to join his server (had no idea of his history at the time), and he had some connection to a player I have a lot of respect for. He directly offered to coach me when I was tilting hard from massive downswing for the 16th time.

You’re right in the fact that I don’t really know if spork is using RTA atm. I really hope not. I would hope people could have a change of heart and see what they ar

The problem with this is that you still continued to work with him even after finding out about his history. You can't sit there on your pedestal calling out cheaters when continuing to work with one.


by PLO&GO P

The problem with this is that you still continued to work with him even after finding out about his history. You can't sit there on your pedestal calling out cheaters when continuing to work with one.

Yeah I mean I totally understand your perspective. I don’t think I compromised any of my morals to have worked with him. Would be another story if I thought he was cheating while he was coaching me. But I honestly believe he is not someone who would cheat now. Not that I know him all that well. I just won’t stop associating with someone that I see as a friend just because it reflects badly on me. But again part of the consequences of this is some people will see me as shady. It really sucks and I don’t think it’s fair. But I’m not gonna just turn my back on someone because ppl think I should. And I will defend my integrity the best I can, and continue to play clean poker as I always have.


by OVERSTIMULATED P

Ah yes, Zhuang "John" Ruan. A guy who made millions cheating US online poker with RTA through his own play and his horses. Zhuang Ruan and his players are real scum. You should think long and hard about associating (or continuing to associate) with any of them.

Partially addressed this in my previous post, but it’s not like these players exactly advertise having worked with an RTA stable. But yeah from what I’ve heard squid is a real piece of work.


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