Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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It's a total eclipse of jihad.

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by Victor P

750m total in aid. thats not all going to military.

Some of it is going towards bomb shelters to protect their citizens

Oh wait it's not


So now you're using the onion for your news?


And meanwhile...



by metsandfinsfan P

Some of it is going towards bomb shelters to protect their citizens

Oh wait it's not

why would they need bomb shelters for the civilians?


6 week long cease fire for 40 hostages would be a massive win for Hamas.


The deal would also include the release of at least 700 Palestinian prisoners, including more than 100 who are serving life sentences for killing Israelis.

As well.

Seems unlikely


by Bluegrassplayer P

As well.

Seems unlikely

The Israelis have historically done that type deal, releasing stupendous numbers of apparent terrorists for just one hostage, which is why Hamas and other terrorist orgs keep taking hostages -- the Israelis make it worth their while and offer every incentive for them to carry on hostage-taking. This is probably not the time for yet another deal on those lines (and it was always a terrible and obviously self-defeating idea), but with the Israelis you never know.


by Victor P

why would they need bomb shelters for the civilians?

Cuz they keep attacking Israel who will keep retaliating, that's why. But Hamas don't care about the Gazan people so they won't.


by corpus vile P

Cuz they keep attacking Israel who will keep retaliating, that's why. But Hamas don't care about the Gazan people so they won't.

So close to saying it


Saying what vic? Don't get all cryptic on me, spit it out


by metsandfinsfan P

So now you're using the onion for your news?

It's a satire on Israel's bombing policy. Like those three vehicles clearly marked on their roofs with an aid agency's logo and using a pre-notified aid route, all three of which the Israelis deliberately bombed in succession in order to kill aid workers (making sure that the survivors who fled to another vehicle were killed in turn) and deter aid agencies from doing their job. Do try and catch up.


I really don't think that's what happened. The people that made the call basically destroyed their own careers. Everything points to careless error as the cause of the attacks.

But IDF playing fast and loose with approvals is arguably even worse.


by corpus vile P

Saying what vic? Don't get all cryptic on me, spit it out

Israel murders children. Intentionally.


Also I just want to point out IDF firing people for accidentally killing civilians vs. Hamas worshipping people for intentionally killing civilians is one of the core differences between the two parties to this conflict.

Bibi seems to be doing his best to erase that difference but it's still there, for now.


by Victor P

Israel murders children. Intentionally.

Ah the babies, gotcha. That's what you gleaned from a convo about Hamas not building bomb shelters for their people.


by Victor P

why would they need bomb shelters for the civilians?

Between 10 and 20 percent of Hamas's rockets fail and fall into Gaza, Human Rights Watch said in a recent report


by grizy P

6 week long cease fire for 40 hostages would be a massive win for Hamas.

Big win for those 40 people too!


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by microbet P

Big win for those 40 people too!

And a giant loss for the untold number of people Hamas will kidnap in the future expecting the same returns.


by Victor P

why would they need bomb shelters for the civilians?

The same reason Israel does?


Palestinian protest in Michigan leads to "Death to America " chants

Weird....


by grizy P

And a giant loss for the untold number of people Hamas will kidnap in the future expecting the same returns.

Yeah which is why I'm not thrilled with the ceasefire in general.


Vic is in favor of death to America, as his cohort make last-minute revisions to the manifesto.


by metsandfinsfan P

Palestinian protest in Michigan leads to "Death to America " chants

Weird....

wacky place

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023...

count me as being in favour of the ceasefire, and then immediately breaking it (i'm talking within 60 seconds) of securing the safety of the 40th hostage


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