Israel/Palestine thread
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He is going to bring peace by persuading the rest of the Arabs to normalize with Israel, isolating the Palestinians. I think it would actually be a positive development, as without financial, martial and moral support the Palestinian cause would collapse and they would have no choice but to make peace.
But I don't see how you would view this as a positive.
I was joking ofc. I am sure trolly will take it back to his fascist boys at whatever offshoot website they are on now to be like see guys I told you Vic loves Trump.
but no, there will not be normalization. not with the people. bc even if you get a strongman to run Lebanon and Syria like in Egypt and Jordan, the people will still be against the USA and Israel.
Dun, you just dont understand the Imperialist playbook.
nor do you understand anything about any resistance for the last 200 years. you wont get peace without justice and freedom.
why do you think Israel should be able to bomb Iran with impunity?
also, if Iran bombed Israel with no provocation, as Israel did, what do you think the response should be?
Israel should allow the transport of weapons to Hezbollah in the north? Or should they cut off the head of the snake who is organizing this?
why do you think Israel should be able to bomb Iran with impunity?
also, if Iran bombed Israel with no provocation, as Israel did, what do you think the response should be?
I've been telling you for over a year now: you can't just assign a position for me and expect it to defend it. This is pretty much the same as me asking you "why do you think russia should be able to invade Ukraine with impunity?
You have to be more careful with your words. Israel did not bomb Iran. They bombed Iranians in Syria. Yes it's a major difference.
ok where did it arise from? thats when I first started seeing. all your NAFO boys talking **** about Russians that died (cope cages) and about any analysis that made it seem like Russia would win. they will win ofc.
but thats all beside the point. where did this sort of meme language come from?
Sure, not the first time I've googled something for you: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cope-seet...
NAFO are not "my boys". They were also not making fun of Russians that died when they made fun of cope cages. I'm sure there are NAFO who did make fun of dead Russians (something I don't agree with) since NAFO is an organization where the only barrier of entry is putting a picture of a dog as your avatar. You should see what some of your Tankie boys have said.
NAFO was mostly making fun of the second strongest military in the world slapping on extremely poor makeshift attempts to repel Ukraine's drones, which have really changed how wars will be fought.
This you?
It's a war in an extremely dense region. The leaders of the Gazan people care less about them than the Israelis. Israel could take it more easy on them but that would just invite more attacks. Israel knows it needs to be brutal in it's response. Arab nations need to know what's gonna happen if they attack. The press is very anti Israel so it's not shocking how many people are brainwashed into thinking the Israelis are the bad people. The
I've been telling you for over a year now: you can't just assign a position for me and expect it to defend it. This is pretty much the same as me asking you "why do you think russia should be able to invade Ukraine with impunity?
You have to be more careful with your words. Israel did not bomb Iran. They bombed Iranians in Syria. Yes it's a major difference.
Israel absolutely bombed Iran when they bombed the embassy. by international law, that embassy was Iranian territory.
but we all know that liberals dont give a **** about internationalolololol law.
now I know the response, bc I read the NYTimes just like you do and you will say but aha it is ofc legal to bomb embassies. and to that I will say lol liberals just love war. also, is Iran allowed to bomb Israeli embassies?
NAFO was mostly making fun of the second strongest military in the world slapping on extremely poor makeshift attempts to repel Ukraine's drones, which have really changed how wars will be fought.
you should watch some videos from Gaza. these are standard on Israeli tanks nowadays.
its just such typical Western arrogance from you. its so offputting.
It is not legal to bomb embassies, once again I'm not going to defend arguments just because you assign them to me. It's also different to bomb an Iranian embassy in Syria than it is to bomb Iran.
Lol no it is not standard on Israeli tanks. Just look at some pics of them.
Sure but the attack on millions of lives and property is crossing the line. They wanna take out Hamas on the ground, go for it. Invade Lebanon, go for it. Bomb Iranian military installations, fine.
But targeting civilians to send a message is terrorism.
EDIT: I said a couple of times and I'll repeat it. I oppose a total ceasefire.
This is a pro Hamas source but the basic facts are true. Hamas and company were able to coordinate an ambush the day before Israel pulled out of Khan Younis. This is after the place had been completely flattened. If Israel fought "fair" and tried to do a ground offensive without significantly softening the place up with air power it probably doesn't end well for them. Maybe Hamas before 10/7 didn't think Israel would go THIS hard on the bombing and the ground fighting could have gone differently.
He is going to bring peace by persuading the rest of the Arabs to normalize with Israel, isolating the Palestinians. I think it would actually be a positive development, as without financial, martial and moral support the Palestinian cause would collapse and they would have no choice but to make peace.
But I don't see how you would view this as a positive.
This doesn’t get the Jews closer to extermination, so of course genocidal/jew-hater vic won’t see it as a positive.
many do
This is a pro Hamas source but the basic facts are true. Hamas and company were able to coordinate an ambush the day before Israel pulled out of Khan Younis. This is after the place had been completely flattened. If Israel fought "fair" and tried to do a ground offensive without significantly softening the place up with air power it probably doesn't end well for them. Maybe Hamas before 10/7 didn't think Israel would go THIS hard on the bom
lol I cant believe someone else linked a Jon Elmer video. imagine my surprise when I clicked on it. welcome comrade!
and yikes
many do
Then you should be able to find some pics of them. I don't see a single one in this link.
I watched the 1st minute. Then he started fellating the jihadis with praise for their bravery.
Jordan kicks ass, no?
embassies are not foreign soil although they treated as such
Vic, are you in your copium cage, processing Iran's nothingburger?
Israel absolutely bombed Iran when they bombed the embassy. by international law, that embassy was Iranian territory.
but we all know that liberals dont give a **** about internationalolololol law.
now I know the response, bc I read the NYTimes just like you do and you will say but aha it is ofc legal to bomb embassies. and to that I will say lol liberals just love war. also, is Iran allowed to bomb Israeli embassies?
they bombed syrian soil
It is not legal to bomb embassies, once again I'm not going to defend arguments just because you assign them to me. It's also different to bomb an Iranian embassy in Syria than it is to bomb Iran.
according to who?
see the recent raid between ecuador and mexico
Then you should be able to find some pics of them. I don't see a single one in this link.
this is from a popular mechanics article. not al jazeera or even haaretz
heres a telegraph article. a right wing British outlet
this is why you a liar or maybe just blind or maybe being an intentional troll *******. it plainly shows in the initial link that there are cope cages. and you deny your own lying eyes and force me to spend 5 more minutes of my time to actually link the screenshots.
this is from the article I linked. wtf do you think these are?
huff
lol I cant believe someone else linked a Jon Elmer video. imagine my surprise when I clicked on it. welcome comrade!
Hamas isn't a bunch of kids throwing stones. They have battlefield experience in Syria and there would be a lot of Israeli casualties if they tried to clear those cities street to street.
