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ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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by lozen P

News max was a joke .

OMG Joe Biden’s uncle was eaten by cannibals according to Joe

Is that all u get from the text ?
So sad…


by FreakDaddy P

Dear LuckBox,

Sir... of course I fkn think he was employed because of his name.

Do you understand that to prove some kind of nefarious corruption, you need something called evidence? Republicans combed over Biden's laptop and went through all of their files and couldn't find anything of note. They said in their own report, conducted by Republicans, there was no evidence of wrongdoing. Yet you continue to believe the Russian propaganda, inste

I don't have a party and I try to not post in this thread because it brings out the most brain damaged of partisans but I thought your post was curious.


by Montrealcorp P

QFT !

lol... I try.


Lol at someone who supports Genocide Joe calling other people fascists.


by Luckbox Inc P

I don't have a party and I try to not post in this thread because it brings out the most brain damaged of partisans but I thought your post was curious.

I'd highly recommend becoming partisan when one side is trying to replay history, and is going all-in on fascism. The silence and acting like you don't have opinions is how millions of people die.


by Brian James P

Lol at someone who supports Genocide Joe calling other people fascists.

You should look up the word genocide before you just throw it around hyperbolically. When people make comments like this, it doesn't make them look clever, it makes them look.....


by FreakDaddy P

I'd highly recommend becoming partisan when one side is trying to replay history, and is going all-in on fascism. The silence and acting like you don't have opinions is how millions of people die.

So why do you support the Biden regime which is openly fascist?


by lozen P

Biden clearly brags about the fact he would not give Ukraine a billion $$ in loan guarantees unless they fire the prosecutor a clear bribe

at the 1:01 mark

Broken YouTube Link

Why wouldn't Biden brag about it ? He accomplished what a set of bipartisan senators including Republicans couldn't accomplish - getting that same prosecutor fired for being corrupt. The same prosecutor that leaders from other countries echoed that he should be replaced.

A newly unearthed letter from 2016 shows that Republican senators pushed for reforms to Ukraine’s prosecutor general’s office and judiciary, echoing calls then-Vice President Joe Biden made at the time.

CNN’s KFile found a February 2016 bipartisan letter signed by several Republican senators that urged then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to “press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General’s office and judiciary.”

The letter shows that addressing corruption in Ukraine’s Prosecutor General’s office had bipartisan support in the US and further undercuts a baseless attack made by President Donald Trump and his allies that Biden pressured the Ukrainian government to fire then Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin to stop investigations into a Ukrainian natural gas company that his son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board of. There is no evidence of wrongdoing by either Joe or Hunter Biden, nor is it clear whether Hunter was under investigation at all.

Source: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics/...

And the supposed investigation into Hunter Biden had ended a year before so the entire theory is baseless.


by Brian James P

So why do you support the Biden regime which is openly fascist?

Because there is no proof of any impropriety re Hunter/Burisma I think.


by FreakDaddy P

You should look up the word genocide before you just throw it around hyperbolically. When people make comments like this, it doesn't make them look clever, it makes them look.....

I'm not just throwing it around. And I know very well what it means. Israel is committing actual genocide in Gaza fully supported by the Biden regime. The regime you support.


by Luckbox Inc P

Because there is no proof of any impropriety re Hunter/Burisma I think.

Lol


by Rococo P

There is a huge middle ground between "it is total coincidence that Hunter had that job and had the last name" and "Hunter was just a vehicle for Joe Biden to sell his influence on American policy to foreign powers."

the thing about this that really annoys me is that it's isolated to just hunter

i grew up going to school with children of very powerful people, am good friends with a few kids who's parents are household names

they tend to follow one of three paths that are pretty evenly distributed

1 they choose not to "work" and instead just do what they love and become an artist like a poet or painter, or they found a company that makes flip flops out of recycled tires, perhaps they find success in those fields but the main thing is they are just not about doing anything that isn't their direct passion because they don't need to work

2 follow a typical respectable profession - usually becoming a doctor/lawyer/ngo/think tank/military/etc

3 they go for max value and extract all expected value from their parent's connections and this leads to board seats like Hunter

most powerful families in America have at least one child who pursued route 3, hunter is not even remotely an outlier so i find it silly whenever he's brought up and mentioned as if he were the only one

yes, we should make it illegal for children to trade off their parent's governmental power, we should also make it illegal for people who's roles and responsibilities are things like handing out contracts to Boeing and then magically get offered a 400k a year consulting job from Boeing that takes just a few hours a month once they retire from that government position


by Brian James P

So why do you support the Biden regime which is openly fascist?

I'll probably regret asking, but why is Biden fascist?

Is Biden the PM of Israel? No... so if you want to say he's supporting someone who is committing genocide. Ok, fine... even though genocide isn't even occurring in Palestine, but let's pretend it is. That would be like me punching someone in the face, and because you stood beside me an applauded, someone called you the puncher.


MAGA are braindead imbeciles, so that's why the noise about Hunter plays.

Like you say, Rick, the prodigal son or daughter of a wealthy family is
breaking news to MAGA, when its actual ubiquity is boring to everyone else


Were they this bothered by Ivanka Trump getting trademarks fast-tracked by China, or Jared Kushner getting a $2B investment from the Saudis?

Remembering, they they didn't just share a name, but were both actual (wholly unqualified) official advisors to the President.


by FreakDaddy P

I'll probably regret asking, but why is Biden fascist?

Is Biden the PM of Israel? No... so if you want to say he's supporting someone who is committing genocide. Ok, fine... even though genocide isn't even occurring in Palestine, but let's pretend it is. That would be like me punching someone in the face, and because you stood beside me an applauded, someone called you the puncher.

Well.

Blatant election interference by prosecuting your main political rival. Throwing people in jail for years without trial. Using intelligence agencies to spy on your opponents. Censorship. Silencing or attempting to silence opponents. Forcing medical procedures on people against their will. There's a few to start with.

All out of the fascist manual.

And providing weapons and armaments to a country carrying out genocide is indeed supporting genocide.


by Gorgonian P

What exact "weapons and armaments" were supplied to Israel, and why?

2000lb bombs and 500 lb bombs and fighter jets


by lozen P

2000lb bombs and 500 lb bombs and fighter jets

You only answered half of my question. Keep going. Also, we appreciate citing sources here at 2+2 dot com. Your understanding of the word "exact," which I bolded for a reason, could use some work, also.


by rickroll P

3 they go for max value and extract all expected value from their parent's connections and this leads to board seats like Hunter

I agree that it is hardly unusual for children of wealthy or prominent people to benefit from the connections of their parents. And some of those children are perfectly decent people who just happened to be born with huge advantages.

The real problems tend to arise when the kid is half a moron with questionable judgment and ethics--that is, when the kid is someone like Hunter.


by Brian James P

Well.

Blatant election interference by prosecuting your main political rival. Throwing people in jail for years without trial. Using intelligence agencies to spy on your opponents. Censorship. Silencing or attempting to silence opponents. Forcing medical procedures on people against their will. There's a few to start with.

All out of the fascist manual.

And providing weapons and armaments to a country carrying out genocide is indeed supporting


Are you open to being wrong at all, or do you wholly believe the above? Is there any chance that you could be incorrect about any of the above?

Because there's a separation of powers in this thing we call American democracy. Biden doesn't bring charges against Trump. The justice department does. Oh wait, I get it... there's proof Biden leaned on the Justice department to bring charges. Rudy Giuliani has it hidden on Hunter's laptop maybe? And you do realize that grand juries (and juries in general) are not Biden robots... they are actually independent citizens? Did Biden pay them off to convict Trump too?

Who did Biden throw in jail w/o trial? How is he silencing people?

Forced medial procedures.. I assume you mean mandated vaccines for government employees in the face of a pandemic. Just say that then, because you become super hyperbolic when you're using generalities like this.

You guys hate government any ways, so why do you care if government employees needed to be vaxxed? 😀


So I had two huge sliders in the downstairs of my home that had leaks from all the rains we had here in CA. I had a team of guys trying to figure out the source of the leak and repair it for several days, and one of the main guys felt compelled over the course of this time to randomly share w/ me all of his fun conspiracy theories. He's a white guy, in his mid 50's. Obvious Trump supporter w/ some of his comments he couldn't keep to himself.

Apparently, chem trails are being used by the government to create new weather patterns.

Bill Gates is killing people via vaccines because he wants population control.

5G is being used to alter people's theta waves.

Climate change is a total hoax.


Now I've heard all of these to some degree or another, and read about them. But to hear them come out of an adult person's face, as if they were fact, and w/ total seriousness... I really had to bite my tongue because I was going to have this crazy person for the next few days in my house. But omg... the lack of critical thinking is really overwhelming... and in this thread.


by Rococo P

I agree that it is hardly unusual for children of wealthy or prominent people to benefit from the connections of their parents. And some of those children are perfectly decent people who just happened to be born with huge advantages.

The real problems tend to arise when the kid is half a moron with questionable judgment and ethics--that is, when the kid is someone like Hunter.

Or ya know Donald Trump. The reason we really gotta stop this kind of affirmative action.


by Rococo P

I agree that it is hardly unusual for children of wealthy or prominent people to benefit from the connections of their parents. And some of those children are perfectly decent people who just happened to be born with huge advantages.

The real problems tend to arise when the kid is half a moron with questionable judgment and ethics--that is, when the kid is someone like Hunter.

agreed, they typically at least know better than to film themselves doing crack with hookers

but nevertheless, if you looked at a list of boards of fortune 500 companies, you'll be hard pressed to find a single one that doesn't have the child/spouse/sibling of someone making policy decisions which impact that company - but they sometimes take the more direct route and put the people who helped them out with policy with positions after they leave office

so people in the military and government who are deciding which company to hand out the contract to and negotiating how much it'll cost aren't spending their own money and know 100% that if they make this company happy they'll in turn ensure their golden years are flush with cash

https://www.gao.gov/assets/a275722.html

over 10% of every defense contractor's workforce are former department of defense officials who were the people handing out contracts to those same companies - this is a far greater issue than a one off with some dipshit scion


Putting everything else aside for a moment, just look at this doddering old boomer jfc. He had someone print out dozens of Fox News pages so he could meekly state his grievances while everyone around him looks at their feet in embarrassment for what a soft bitch this guy is.


Everything about this trial is morally reprehensible

Not for trump, **** him, I hope he ****ing rots

But for some inexplicable reason biographical details for the jurors are not withheld cuz this isn’t a federal trial, and even though trump is already intimidating jurors and not getting punished for it nothing is being done to protect the jurors at all

These lunatics will devote themselves to finding out who these people are and doxxing them, and probably misfiring and doxxing people who aren’t even on the jury and their only ****ing crime is being selected for jury duty of the shittiest human being in American history

And before the usual riffraff decides to quote me and handwave via their MAGA moral deficiencies, I’ll just tell you I don’t care and think you’re human garbage

And since I didn’t name names if you feign outrage you’re just outting yourself. If you think this is justifiable behavior against innocent people doing their civic duty, **** you, I hope god is real only so you can rot in hell


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