Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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supposedly its over trolly


Israel latest attack on Iran was very stupid.

Not because they don't have a right to do it, but because it accomplishes nothing good, focus as discussed should have been on entering Rafah asap and perhaps extend fighting to Lebanon.

Meanwhile Americans have been reminded of the fact that if you import antisemite communists from other countries, you end up with more anti semite communists citizens as their children will keep up the family tradition


by Trolly McTrollson P

holy **** this is not great

I assume you mean the "strikes" on Iran.

Newest information is that the strikes on Iran were duds, nothing in Iran was destroyed, and may have been part of some psychological warfare/information gathering mission by Israel.

I assume the strike on Iranian backed militants in Iraq were real and really killed some bad guys.


Way too early to call this a dud. It is very common to send a small salvo like this in order to get up to date info on a target's AD layout before launching a full attack. Hopefully this is not the case though.


by Luciom P

Israel latest attack on Iran was very stupid.

Not because they don't have a right to do it, but because it accomplishes nothing good, focus as discussed should have been on entering Rafah asap and perhaps extend fighting to Lebanon.

Meanwhile Americans have been reminded of the fact that if you import antisemite communists from other countries, you end up with more anti semite communists citizens as their children will keep up the family trad

judeo Bolsheviks communists?
antisemite Bolshevik communists?


by Victor P

judeo Bolsheviks communists?
antisemite Bolshevik communists?

In this case Muslim antisemite communists from Somalia


https://www.dw.com/en/middle-east-update...

Iran claims no missile attack, just drones.


99.5% block rate from Iran! Mutombo in this bitch. Israel looking like Shawn Bradley.


by Dunyain P

I dont think this is fair. Generally I think Micro's philosophy is the ethically and strategically best choice for Israel is to treat the Palestinians fairly and more or less play defense against Palestinian militants, Iran and its proxies. He believes Israel has the technology to make this a viable strategy without too many casualties, and if it followed this strategy Islamofasicsm will eventually run out of steam on its own. But the mo

I wouldn't say this is everything, but not bad. Eventually, if we don't all die from nuclear war or AI murdering us, this will be how peace happens and not by killing every Arab who hates Israel.


We've top men working on all of it.


by Trolly McTrollson P

holy **** this is not great

Or a nothingburger


by Trolly McTrollson P

IDF central command is next to a civilian hospital. Wanna guess how many IDF personnel there you'll find on any given day?

The "human shields!" nonsense became a cruel joke after the dozenth or so hospital got blown up; if I were a Hamas commander I'd station my troops as far away from any maternity wards or refugee camps as possible.

That's because you assume Hamas commanders think like western liberals such as yourself. They don't. Nor do they care if they lose troops (plenty more where they came from) or especially civilians as it helps the "Evil Zionist genocide waremongers" narrative"


by gs3737 P

Why are you opposed to the electoral college?!

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Why do you hate sunsets?? 😀


by Schlitz mmmm P

We've top men working on all of it.

Top...men.


by microbet P

I wouldn't say this is everything, but not bad. Eventually, if we don't all die from nuclear war or AI murdering us, this will be how peace happens and not by killing every Arab who hates Israel.

Its not that you're against Israeli aggression that is troublesome

Is that you somehow seem to feel pointing out antisemitism on college campuses is a distraction from you feeling upset about Israel's aggression. That's what i can't wrap my head around


by Bluegrassplayer P

https://www.dw.com/en/middle-east-update...

Iran claims no missile attack, just drones.

by Victor P

99.5% block rate from Iran! Mutombo in this bitch. Israel looking like Shawn Bradley.

All good. Let iran claim the W ON DE.


Also looks like they purposely avoided nuclear sites


by Bluegrassplayer P

Way too early to call this a dud. It is very common to send a small salvo like this in order to get up to date info on a target's AD layout before launching a full attack. Hopefully this is not the case though.

I think it honestly isa " gotcha last" thing. I don't think either country wants full blown war


I really hope you're right but it easily fits with the prodding Iran into a response escalatory route.

There may have been a missile. An Israeli missile has struck Iran, two ...

I agree neither country wants all out war but Netenyahu and some of his supporters may really want it.


by metsandfinsfan P

Its not that you're against Israeli aggression that is troublesome

Is that you somehow seem to feel pointing out antisemitism on college campuses is a distraction from you feeling upset about Israel's aggression. That's what i can't wrap my head around

Not a distraction from me feeling upset about anything. It's a distraction for you is what I'm saying. As long as you have college campuses to post about, you can avoid the death toll. 35k humans dead? What about what this woman on the streets of NYC said!!!!


by corpus vile P

That's because you assume Hamas commanders think like western liberals such as yourself. They don't. Nor do they care if they lose troops (plenty more where they came from) or especially civilians as it helps the "Evil Zionist genocide waremongers" narrative"

I keep forgetting Muslims aren't humans like the rest of us.


Columbia admin said they did it for safety.


so they got a bunch of kids thrown in jail and then put them out on the streets of NYC in the middle of the night. sounds real safe!

well, maybe mets feefees are a bit safer and thats really all that matters at this point.


by Trolly McTrollson P

I keep forgetting Muslims aren't humans like the rest of us.

I'm never going to get anywhere near this thought process, but Jihadists are definitely the furthers possible thing from our system of values and beliefs. Like someone in France, Ecuador, Australia, Canada, pick your place. They fear death, they fear it for their families, etc.

The concept of a true suicide bomber, or someone willing to put their family in harm's way, is just so other-worldly when it comes to consolidating our world views.

In that sense, that tiny subset of Muslims is truly just another niche all together. And even among Muslims with normalization, I think they feel that way now. There is a desire to distance from it. In their way, to me at least, the Haredim are the other side of a similar (but different) coin.


by Trolly McTrollson P

I keep forgetting Muslims aren't humans like the rest of us.

Never said that , as well you know. I was referring specifically to Hamas who have consistently shown they don't gaf about the Palestinian people. I never mentioned Muslims. Take your substandard trolling and shove it up your arse. You vic and PW consistently mess up any thread you pollute with your bad faith bollocks.


by rafiki P

I'm never going to get anywhere near this thought process, but Jihadists are definitely the furthers possible thing from our system of values and beliefs. Like someone in France, Ecuador, Australia, Canada, pick your place. They fear death, they fear it for their families, etc.

The concept of a true suicide bomber, or someone willing to put their family in harm's way, is just so other-worldly when it comes to consolidating our world views.

Hamas doesnt do suicide bombs or martyr missions. not sure why you keep bringing it up.


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