The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
I've Oppenheimer on in the background!
let's see your "contributions" since you've returned from self imposed exile
baseless straw man smarm attack
Hold on, are you telling me that youth sports isn't a perfectly level playing field where all people have identical bodies, identical training, identical access, identical strengths in all regards?!?!?
nothingburger response, refuses to engage with people trying to discuss what he said
more baseless straw man smarm attacks
You guys are oddly obsessed with the minutia of a middle school girls shotput competition.
more of the same
I haven’t - and won’t - forget the last comment you made to me that was deleted. Saying “cheap” lands on very, very deaf ears.
Buddy, you said I had a closeted “sham marriage”. You don’t get to give lectures about who is a bad person or who is attacking people anymore.
you've added nothing positive whatsoever, you just attack and when multiple people attempt to discuss it with you, you just dismiss it and go on to a new attack based upon some new faux and manufactured outrage of your own, well done dorothy
it's amazing that you genuinely believe that you are both a good person and that you post in good faith
also that alt account created only to insult others magically resurrects and begin posting again once you come back, would you look at that
This is it in a nutshell, you make a disingenuous post not trying to discuss what actually happened (women protesting against having to compete against a biological male) into just pure whataboutism. Then, when multiple individuals tried to actually discuss it with you and ask about real world solutions. How should this be addressed then. Should we create more divisions and classes due to the inequities or just make everything co-ed and do survival of the fittest instead.
You then refuse to engage - just respond a "no"
and then your next post is attacking the integrity of the people who were attempting to discuss it with you, basically implying they are scumbags for even broaching the subject
this is why you're an awful & disgusting person
Hold on, are you telling me that youth sports isn't a perfectly level playing field where all people have identical bodies, identical training, identical access, identical strengths in all regards?!?!?
Maybe so. Maybe I'm an awful, disgusting, bad, cowardly, disingenuous, swarmy person. Browser is gone so sure, throw the insult book at me, I guess.
But at least I didn't say you had a sham marriage. At least I have some shreds of dignity left.
I observed that sports is HIGHLY unequal with all sorts of genetic/environmental differences between people that give people advantages, most of which we just completely accept as part and parcel of doing it. That simply doesn't imply we should not have girls divisions at all. I don't know why you would think it would.
Maybe so. Maybe I'm an awful, disgusting, bad, cowardly, disingenuous, swarmy person. Browser is gone so sure, throw the insult book at me, I guess.
But at least I didn't say you had a sham marriage. At least I have some shreds of dignity left.
it's incredible you think quoting you and showing your own posts back at you and specifically breaking down and analyzing your behavior are insults and again, you said that, you keep on repeating it now, you said it not me and you're the one who repeatedly bring it up - you enjoy being a victim because now you "have excuses" to be angry and lash out
and don't act like this has anything to do with bowser, i pointed out your behavior during his reign of tyranny as well, again, another cheap shot and character assassination attempt to make it seem like I wouldn't have dared say this - also implying that there's something wrong with pointing out your deplorable behavior - it should be called out for what it is, and as we can all see by your very next post - it's a net positive for the thread that i did
you don't see anything wrong with your posts which are nothing but character assassinations of people who are just trying to have a conversation with you, oh and look how you left this one with a snipe attack at my character as well, I'm shocked, shocked i tell ya
more strawmen for dorothy, i believe you that you actually think that you're the victim here, which is hilarious
I observed that sports is HIGHLY unequal with all sorts of genetic/environmental differences between people that give people advantages, most of which we just completely accept as part and parcel of doing it. That simply doesn't imply we should not have girls divisions at all. I don't know why you would think it would.
at least I've shamed you into engaging with conversation instead of insults
i hope my work here is done
If you measured that "boys" testosterone, it would be lower than all five of those "girls". Its already been conceded that testosterone is the secret sauce. Testosterone in puberty.
Those girls are morons who were manipulated by their bigoted parents. Thats how they are wrong.
Just like people in this thread will say one thing and wiggle to the opposite just to be cruel. Because cruelty is the point, not anything else.
I don't know what the secret sauce is. They seem young enough that testosterone wouldn't have made anyone stronger yet anyway, but I 11yo boys are generally stronger than 11yo girls.
But ok, you're welcome to think that girls who don't want to play against boys are morons.
They are just a human. This is how you are talking about another human.
Just like a black person, or a gay person, or jewish person. You aren't excused from being a bigot just because you think someone is a lower class than yourself. Thats... actually the definition of bigotry...
Wha? I don't think anyone is a lower class than myself, and I think it anyone can play sports, everyone should be allowed to.
I observed that sports is HIGHLY unequal with all sorts of genetic/environmental differences between people that give people advantages, most of which we just completely accept as part and parcel of doing it. That simply doesn't imply we should not have girls divisions at all. I don't know why you would think it would.
If you think a trans person doesn't have an advantage in this particular sport for this particular age group, it certainly would be logical for you to support merging and having coed competition for this age group in this sport.
If you disagree, please tell us why the one doesn't imply the other.
If you think a trans person doesn't have an advantage in this particular sport for this particular age group, it certainly would be logical for you to support merging and having coed competition for this age group in this sport.
If you disagree, please tell us why the one doesn't imply the other.
I presume the average biological boy at 11 is physically stronger than the average biological girl so I don’t think your question applies to me.
I presume the average biological boy at 11 is physically stronger than the average biological girl so I don’t think your question applies to me.
Then why do you think this particular biological boy should be allowed to compete in the girls division, especially when it is clearly objected to by some of the girls? Do you think those girls are morons or bigots (like coordi does)?
I observed that sports is HIGHLY unequal with all sorts of genetic/environmental differences between people that give people advantages, most of which we just completely accept as part and parcel of doing it. That simply doesn't imply we should not have girls divisions at all. I don't know why you would think it would.
I would think it because we're in the trans thread and the context was males participating in female sports.
The only person who went disgustingly personal and accused someone of having a sham marriage was you. I suppose after your dozens of recent insults it isn’t surprisingly you decided to sink that low, but somehow I am still surprised. Just sad.
you said it, i repeated it once because either you or your buddy controlling that alt account (created solely to insult people) decided to use marriage as a proxy for virtue and was specifically using it to elevate you above others, so it was highly relevant
you continue to post about it incessantly, whereas i am not mentioning it and have long since moved on
keep playing the victim, the only person attacking your marriage is you - literally quoted your own words and have not mentioned it again since, you are the one who apparently wants to remind everyone about it
you said it, i repeated it once because either you or your buddy controlling that alt account (created solely to insult people) decided to use marriage as a proxy for virtue and was specifically using it to elevate you above others, so it was highly relevant
you continue to post about it incessantly, whereas i am not mentioning it and have long since moved on
keep playing the victim, the only person attacking your marriage is you - literally
No, I did not say I had a “sham marriage”. That was you. Only you. Maybe in your dozens of ceaseless insults to me (and bizarre conspiracy theory about alts) it feels like just one more insult. Except that was a level of deliberately and directly personal insult that even by your own posting is rare. Very revealing.
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No, I did not say I had a “sham marriage”. That was you. Only you. Maybe in your dozens of ceaseless insults to me (and bizarre conspiracy theory about alts) it feels like just one more insult. Except that was a level of deliberately and directly personal insult that even by your own posting is rare. Very revealing.
ok, you win, as an apology I'll send you this pin once you dm me your address
you said it, i repeated it once because either you or your buddy controlling that alt account (created solely to insult people) decided to use marriage as a proxy for virtue and was specifically using it to elevate you above others, so it was highly relevant
you continue to post about it incessantly, whereas i am not mentioning it and have long since moved on
keep playing the victim, the only person attacking your marriage is you - literally
You're feisty. Someone doesn't agree with you so is automatically a false account. Whoa is me! Ik this place is dead and full of old incels, but not every new account is a scam. Now show me us the doll where the trans catfished you
i love the defenders of males competing against females.
"wow, you care a lot about middle school shot putting."
no, you dolts, we care about fighting the illusion that a male can become a female and a female a male. its moronic at best and downright dangerous at worst.
i love the defenders of males competing against females.
"wow, you care a lot about middle school shot putting."
no, you dolts, we care about fighting the illusion that a male can become a female and a female a male. its moronic at best and downright dangerous at worst.
I care about sports. Not necessarily middle school shot putting, which I didn't know was a thing, but about youth sports in general.
