President Joe Biden

President Joe Biden

Right now, we need VP Biden, we need him to step down and drop out so Bernie sanders can save this country from this global crisis just like FDR.

A thread to debate the efficacy of a Joe Biden Presidency in the midst of a global pandemic and impending Great Recession/Depression.

Where is Joe Biden? Can he beat Trump and is he even trying to? What would a Joe Biden Presidency look like in these times? Where is he and why isn't he leading?

20 March 2020 at 09:14 PM
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If Trump loses, his attack on women's rights is going to be the main reason. Abortion ban couldn't even win with voters in Kentucky.


by microbet P

Imagine a Republican criticizing Biden and even typing "Attack on women's rights" regardless of what followed.

Republicans attacked women's rights as well

I add the democrats attack on democracy 😀 which the GOP does as well


by bahbahmickey P

Although I think joe is bad for America I don't think it is fair to call him evil. As with nearly any other politician in the last 100 years there are a group of people who don't like them and many of them can't articulate why they dislike them.

I think "gas prices" and "immigration" are legit reason to not want to vote for biden. When people say immigration they are pointing out that they believe the increase in illegal immigration is bad

Oil is set by international trades so I don’t see how Biden can do much for that except on the margin .
producing more oil ?
Not enough oil refineries anyway …
Ps: opec just keep cutting production for months to keep high prices and every oil corporations (and stock holders) in the world are very happy the way it is now .
Yes guess what , private sector are in to make money , not so make life easy and cHeap for consumers ….

Has for stock buyback tax, I hope you are for it .
Stock buybacks cripples every stock holders (pension funds and small stock retailers) except the ones in management benefiting from stock options .
And it’s a huge minus allocation of cash .
They should instead invest in capex and creating something ….


by Luciom P

then vote with your feet!

Which (developed) countries do you know of which have completely open immigration policies? Because I looked into it years ago and couldn't find any.


Yeah... who would want Victor?

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Love it or leave it! Said the totally not-fascist person.


RE objections to Biden's policy.

I saw 3 things posted that that aren't culture war nonsense: immigration, foreign aid, taxes. I don't see any glaring issues that make him the "worst" or "evil". I'm starting to think that terminology is people trying to "bothsides" or whatever because DT was such a disastrous president.


Rhetoric is the only thing that changes nationally with regard to immigration. Sometimes presidents appear permissive toward immigration, sometimes they demonize and denigrate, but the policy has always been to allow businesses to employ these people (for less than market rate, undercutting our workforce).

The United States government always gives foreign aid. A lot of it is questionable, especially with the direct corruption (lobbying) by PACs. That said, I don't have any objection aiding Ukraine. Russia is clearly the aggressor and generally speaking bad for the planet in their current configuration.

Biden was always going to have to increase taxes or make huge cuts by the design of Trump's policy. We knew this before the 2020 election. I do see his policy leaning more toward the way of reform. They're increasing corporate taxes and those on investment type tax payers. As an advocate for the habitability of our planet, I'm glad the government is giving less money to oil companies. Experts say this will boost revenue, REDUCE GDP, and jobs in the near term.
I don't think this is great, but it's headed in the right direction. Our country grew to be the unipolar super power with corporate taxes at 40%. We put it back into the country and built the awesome public institutions we have today -- that we're dead set on destroying.


by L0LWAT P

RE objections to Biden's policy.

I saw 3 things posted that that aren't culture war nonsense: immigration, foreign aid, taxes. I don't see any glaring issues that make him the "worst" or "evil". I'm starting to think that terminology is people trying to "bothsides" or whatever because DT was such a disastrous president.


Rhetoric is the only thing that changes nationally with regard to immigration. Sometimes presidents appear permissive toward

I have never referred to Biden as the worst President or evil I do not think the ones that commented have had as well. You may say that Trump has said those things about Biden as has the all the left wing media and Biden about Trump.

Many times I have said if your a democrat you should be pleased with what has been accomplished and passed. Im not sure how you think all those items are cultural


by lozen P

I have never referred to Biden as the worst President or evil I do not think the ones that commented have had as well. You may say that Trump has said those things about Biden as has the all the left wing media and Biden about Trump.

Many times I have said if your a democrat you should be pleased with what has been accomplished and passed. I'm not sure how you think all those items are cultural

I think it was you who referenced women's rights which conflicts with reality. Currently many doctors and women are fleeing red states because of the oppressive policies of the right.


by L0LWAT P

I think it was you who referenced women's rights which conflicts with reality. Currently many doctors and women are fleeing red states because of the oppressive policies of the right.

When it comes to abortion I agree but many women now feel unsafe competing in sports and changing in locker rooms that is a reality. Biden is forcing folks to accept an ideology that some disagree with . He has even changed Title 9 which was passed to protect women


by L0LWAT P

I think it was you who referenced women's rights which conflicts with reality. Currently many doctors and women are fleeing red states because of the oppressive policies of the right.

they dont actually care about women, or even people really. they care about control.


by lozen P

When it comes to abortion I agree but many women now feel unsafe competing in sports and changing in locker rooms that is a reality. Biden is forcing folks to accept an ideology that some disagree with . He has even changed Title 9 which was passed to protect women


Lol, many women. Nowhere but on the Internet do women feel unsafe in locker rooms.


Turns out, a fair number of people on the internet also exist in real life.

Not all, obviously, but quite a few!


if republicans actually cared about women or children or grooming, there'd be much more legislation aimed at the local churches than at drag queens.


by Slighted P

if republicans actually cared about women or children or grooming, there'd be much more legislation aimed at the local churches than at drag queens.

You left out the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts


And law enforcement.


FTC banning non-competes and invalidating most current ones. huge win for workers


eta- inb4 bahbah comes in with how this is actually bad for workers because of something Reagan said.


You're a lawyer and you should already know that non-competes are unenforceable, but it does at least eliminate the dog and pony show of signing them to intimidate the ignorant workers.


by Montrealcorp P

Oil is set by international trades so I don’t see how Biden can do much for that except on the margin .
producing more oil ?
Not enough oil refineries anyway …
Ps: opec just keep cutting production for months to keep high prices and every oil corporations (and stock holders) in the world are very happy the way it is now .
Yes guess what , private sector are in to make money , not so make life easy and cHeap for consumers ….

Ha

When people say a president is good or bad for something they aren’t typically saying the difference between 2 presidents is night and day on that issue. For example we should expect higher oil prices under most dems who want higher oil prices than most repubs who want lower oil prices - they have some control (but nowhere near total control) on oil prices because the US has very large reserves and is a very large consumer of oil. So if a President lowers regulation on oil companies we should expect prices to go down or if a President closes drilling in some areas we should expect the price to go up.

1. Why do you think stock buybacks are bad for a stock holder?
2. Why do you think stock buybacks are bad for a stock holder but good for someone who has an option on that stock?


by L0LWAT P

RE objections to Biden's policy.

I saw 3 things posted that that aren't culture war nonsense: immigration, foreign aid, taxes. I don't see any glaring issues that make him the "worst" or "evil". I'm starting to think that terminology is people trying to "bothsides" or whatever because DT was such a disastrous president.


Rhetoric is the only thing that changes nationally with regard to immigration. Sometimes presidents appear permissive toward

I know there are a few nuts who Biden is evil because there are always a few nuts who think every politician is evil, but for the most part repubs haven’t called any dem politicians evil anywhere near the level dems have called repub politicians evil.

the language in which a political party talks about illegal immigration and the policies they use to treat illegal immigrants can have massive effects on the number of illegal immigrants.

You are right that tax increases do slow economic growth and increase unemployment higher than what we would otherwise see. The only reason I believe you think Biden has to raise taxes is because the govt is still spending at the increased levels we saw because of Covid.

by Slighted P

FTC banning non-competes and invalidating most current ones. huge win for workers


eta- inb4 bahbah comes in with how this is actually bad for workers because of something Reagan said.

I have long been against 98+% of non-competes. However, there are some that I think should be legal and enforceable but there are only for business owners or people at similar levels in a company. Non-competes are utterly ridiculous for lower level or even middle management employees.


by lozen P

It’s one his tall tales that you really can’t prove it never happened even though we know it’s crap

Turns out I was wrong the military confirms his plane crashed into the sea due to mechanical problems and was not shot down. Also 3 individuals were trapped in the plane and Joes uncle was not one of them . How does the military know ? There was a survivor

Another tall tale from Joe yes yes Trump lies more


It's obvious Joe Biden is a stooge plant and under total control. He has no clue even how to exit a stage.

How's it possible that the supposed president of the biggest superpower in the world doesn't even understand how to campaign?

The teleprompter said "Four More Years! (pause)"

He not only said four more years with the least bit enthusiasm like he doesn't even know why he's saying it, but he also said the word pause out loud not only once but twice!!!!!

Broken YouTube Link

We're living in some very sad but some very dangerous times.


by Playbig2000 P

It's obvious Joe Biden is a stooge plant and under total control. He has no clue even how to exit a stage.

How's it possible that the supposed president of the biggest superpower in the world doesn't even understand how to campaign?

The teleprompter said "Four More Years! (pause)"

He not only said four more years with the least bit enthusiasm like he doesn't even know why he's saying it, but he also said the word pause out loud not only onc

Joe Biden if he wins may last 4 weeks than resign so Harris can be President


by lozen P

Joe Biden if he wins may last 4 weeks than resign so Harris can be President

Wasn't that the theory four years ago?


Yes, Joe has trouble reading a teleprompter and says things he isn't supposed to like the word "pause" and the phrase "repeat the line", but you have to keep in mind that most people of his age and ability are in a nursing home and have trouble remembering the names of their children. I know he has goten his wife and sister confused, but that was like one time.

Most people in his stage of life are overwhelmed by the idea of getting out of bed to walk down to the cafeteria for meals 3 times a day. So, he has trouble walking up stairs, riding a bike, reading and speaking - that doesn't mean he can't be the president of the US.


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