Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
They're ok with me, if they are based on religious beliefs. But anti-semitism is usually defined by hatred of ethnic Hebrews, regardless of whether or not they practice Judaism.
There is a reason it's not called "anti-Judaism". I am certainly anti-Islam, anti-Judaism, and anti-Christian. Islamophobia is a silly term, but I do not believe that have a phobia (irrational fear) of Islam. I have a rational fear of those who practice the same
X-phobia in general is leftist framing and as all leftist framing it has to be rejected in full.
Shared history requires shared ancestry, otherwise it's not your history lol.
A recently immigrated person from Guatemala in Texas doesn't have civil war history in his identity , so no shared history with people whose ancestors where there during the civil war.
Same for Palestine which has recently (last 200 years) huge waves of emigration and immigration, people residing there currently don't share the same ancestors, don't share the same history, so aren't an ethnicity
Not understanding that shared history means shared ancestry is truly incredible
Honest to blog, when I fist head the "Well Palestinian is a nationality so it's not racist to call them bloodthirsty savages" bit I thought it was so immediately stupid on its face that it didn't warrant a response. Like a month later and they're still trotting it out! I sort of have to assume it's bad faith, like I don't think it's humanly possible to be that obtuse and live independently without some sort of live-in assistance.
Honest to blog, when I fist head the "Well Palestinian is a nationality so it's not racist to call them bloodthirsty savages" bit I thought it was so immediately stupid on its face that it didn't warrant a response. Like a month later and they're still trotting it out! I sort of have to assume it's bad faith, like I don't think it's humanly possible to be that obtuse and live independently without some sort of live-in assistance.
nope. MY claim is palestinians aren't an ethnicity, so they aren't a protected group. Residents of Gaza are a group, like residents of Texas or New York are. Moderation should be the same for comments on residents of Gaza or residents of New York.
No special treatment of residents in particular area makes sense, that's my claim. Which can very well mean no residents anywhere can be called bloodthirsty savages sure. But in any case, it has nothing to do with racism as... palestinian isn't an ethnicity.
Not being able to read simple English is completely unsurprising.
To spell out what your own definition says: people who share a culture are an ethnicity.
No, you need common ancestors to share history.
A black person raised by whites who shares his parents culture 100% doesn't become white.
Btw if it's only culture, how can autoctone ghanese people and american black descendant of slaves be considered the same ethnicity???
Read better. CULTURE not HISTORY
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An ethnicity or ethnic group is a group of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Those attributes can include a common nation of origin, or common sets of ancestry, traditions, language, history, society, religion, or social treatment.
Culture is learned. Ethnicity is 100% inherited and never depend on your choices.
It's *incredible* to claim sharing a culture makes an ethnicity.
a large group of people who have the same national, racial, or cultural origins, or the state of belonging to such a group:
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So whether you now like it or not, by your own definition shared culture = ethnicity.
Really so a black raised in Italy as italian isn't of black ethnicity and becomes of italian ethnicity? is that how people use that word? really?
Why not? You think all Italians have the same genetic profile? Lol?
Have you ever had yours checked? If you compared your genetic profile and your white next door neighbour's it would show you both have more genes in common with the black Italian than you do with each other.
Does that shock you?
Why not? You think all Italians have the same genetic profile? Lol?
Have you ever had yours checked?
In fact italian isn't an ethnicity either. Sardinian can be (if enough of your ancestors are sardinians). Most other regions are too mixed up too recently to allow for the use of ethnicity to describe them.
I mean you get it about Israel. Israeli isn't an ethnicity. There are jews, arabs, and a few other ethnic groups in Israel right? now that applies in a lot of cases including palestine.
Rather, for palestine the ethnicity is mostly arab, simply with no actual differentiation allowing to claim they are distinct from many other arabs.
In fact italian isn't an ethnicity either. Sardinian can be (if enough of your ancestors are sardinians). Most other regions are too mixed up too recently to allow for the use of ethnicity to describe them.
I mean you get it about Israel. Israeli isn't an ethnicity. There are jews, arabs, and a few other ethnic groups in Israel right? now that applies in a lot of cases including palestine.
Rather, for palestine the ethnicity is mostly arab, s
If you compared your genetic profile and your white next door neighbour's it would show you both have more genes in common with the black Italian than you do with each other.
Does that shock you?
If you compared your genetic profile and your white next door neighbour's it would show you both have more genes in common with the black Italian than you do with each other.
Does that shock you?
Your claim is that if the 3 people described run a 23andme , the 2 white people won't be found having more common ancestors? really?
