Israel/Palestine thread
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idc, but i suspect the relevant parties may take issue with that. idk
you guys know it doesn't matter what any of us think, right? the peace deal isn't actually being hammered out itt
Not itt but we represent quite a range of western countries opinion.
And I don't think events in the region will happen without western consent basically.
Do you?
Both sides might try things but if the opinion of western countries leaders overwhelming sides with something that is what is going to happen imho
Maybe if your definition of a liberal Muslim is one who is not bombing things. I see more and more women wearing Muslim shame-clothing, not fewer, and Salman Rushdie was stabbed by a young Muslim born in the US.
All you have to do is look to Europe to see how Muslim immigrants fair with integration into Western society.
Hint: They don’t
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No I get it as a proportion of Palestinian population vs Israeli population.
Muslims become the majority because you (in Israel) already have 2m of them, wouldn't be the majority in the USA but they would be 40% of voters, and more in the future (they have more children), lucky if you can still eat pork in 2050 in the USA if that happens
Is there room for 150m more people in the USA? Yes if housing regulations change dramatically and you wait the 15-20 years needed to build the necessary housing and infrastructure.
Would it be smart to import 150m people with values very detrimental to everything that made america successful giving them a right to vote? Lol no
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If you're so concerned about LGBTQ+ and not merely using them as a weapon I expect to see you railing against bigoted Christians too - but never see this.
I can't quite put my finger on why that could be.
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Imagine another country getting to decide on who lives and who must die of that of another out of fear of an attack on them. While that could be construed as a viable decision depending on the circumstances, none of these recent attacks are anywhere close to that and bibi and his men are just rage clicking at this point.
Some Muslims are chill, others not as chill.
the fake phone call thing is so funny, this is at least the 3rd time they've run that play
also their narrative makes no sense for a bunch of other reasons he didn't even mention. incredible
the fake phone call thing is so funny, this is at least the 3rd time they've run that play
also their narrative makes no sense for a bunch of other reasons he didn't even mention. incredible
How do you know the audio is fake?
My understand is the current prevailing theory of what appears to have happened is a very precise munition hit a building, killing 3 targeted terrorists inside it, and some shrapnel flew 100 meters and hit a fuel tank (or something similar) starting a giant fire.
And it wasn't in a safe zone.
Do you find this implausible? What do you think happened and why?
War is horrible. You really cant fight a "clean" war. Most don't even try. Which is why we should support defeating the Islamists that promise an unending fight until Israel is destroyed, so there is at least some hope for the wars to end.
When Sinwar was in the hospital during his sickness, he talked a lot with an Israeli dentist there. And he said it was very simple. Israel existed on Islamic holy land, and this was unacceptable, and it must be destroyed. That is it. As long as this guy and people like him are running the show, there is really nothing to do.
On top of what is going on in Gaza, it is pretty wild that Lebanon is indiscriminately firing rockets into Israel non stop now. And we all just kind of shrug our shoulders and normalize it all. And at some point Israel is going to do something major to try to stop it and all the usual suspects will start up with the "genocide" rhetoric.
because, for at least the 3rd time since october, they managed to find, precisely when they needed it, two hamas making a donald trump perfect phone call where they're just saying what israel needs the narrative to be. just look at what they're saying, it's obviously ridiculous
also the entire narrative is comical
My understand is the current prevailing theory of what appears to have happened is a very precise munition hit a building, killing 3 targeted terrorists inside it, and some shrapnel flew 100 meters and hit a fuel tank (or something similar) starting a giant fire.
seems legit
And it wasn't in a safe zone.
yes, there are no "safe zones" because "safe zones" have actual protections and obligations etc
Do you find this implausible? What do you think happened and why?
yes, it's ridiculous. i think israel just decided to blow a bunch of ppl up because they were mad and don't give a ****. now they're in damage control mode because normies noticed for a change. watch the video, it explains a bunch of this stuff if you actually care. but i doubt you do
When Sinwar was in the hospital during his sickness, he talked a lot with an Israeli dentist there. And he said it was very simple. Israel existed on Islamic holy land, and this was unacceptable, and it must be destroyed. That is it.
seems legit
holy ****, vaush did 80 minutes today tearing their story apart. everyone's talking about it
it is so joever
i see a lot of ppl on timeouts, but i got your back, bros. when you bleed, i do too. instead you can pass the time by checking out today's banger of a truth report:
wow just like everyone else. almost like they're human or something
Unwatchable. Hasan doesn't like Israel, I'm shocked.
Why are the woke liberal Youtubers so whiney? Also, look at the comments. It's like being on Stormfront. Why are people so hateful?
How do you know the audio is fake?
My understand is the current prevailing theory of what appears to have happened is a very precise munition hit a building, killing 3 targeted terrorists inside it, and some shrapnel flew 100 meters and hit a fuel tank (or something similar) starting a giant fire.
And it wasn't in a safe zone.
Do you find this implausible? What do you think happened and why?
The UN should investigate how the Palestinians are storing their munitions.
"We believe that a two-state solution [Israeli and Palestinian] must be imposed from the outside to bring peace back, even if, and I insist, Israel reaffirms its refusal [of this solution], and to prevent it they have gone so far as to create Hamas itself," Borrell said.
Hamas is a Bibi project. He makes sure they have been well funded. Everyone knows it. His goal is simple, no Palestine state. Oct 7 is what he wanted. But this whole "war" in Gaza. Against people who cant even fight back has isolated Israel. A stupid plan. You might not think it but old Bibi is truly ******ed and believes the Messiah will bail this out, I swear I'm not kiding. What happens when someone is that far gone and no one shows up? Bar Kokhba. One ally left and its getting shaky.
Propping up a radical group to do radical things and undermine a real govt of Palestinans. Ok, dirty, but ok. But then endlessly bombing in hopes of hitting a guy with an old rifle? You have to show your people you are doing something against what you wanted to happen....The entire world hating on them. Hold on to the last friend ya got.
funny you say that because one of the icj demands was for a halt to the fighting so observers can go in and check the facts on the ground, and i assume israel told them to go **** themselves. and actually, given that they literally threatened the head of the icc the other day, they probably said a lot more than that
but of course you don't actually want that, and now you're going to move on to the next nonsense
