Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by Bill Haywood P

So make the rest of them citizens. (WB and Gaza.)

Why would Israel make gaza citizens when the land isn't part of isreal in your opinion?

The West Bank is at least an argument. But Gaza?


by washoe P

Yes


Now do the USA...

Btw imagine not arming yourself when you've been under this level of attack since FOREVER.

We had ANOTHER Jewish school shot here in Canada yesterday, two in a week now. If you look at the history of the Jews through time I'm amazed we waited this long to gather somewhere and protect ourselves. History has proven that we need the strength in numbers. It's crazy.


The Al Hamduhlala brigade is apparently getting deep-dicked in Rafah. yhtsi


by washoe P



But not really like America.


Four repetitive, rule breaking posts in a row from Washoe.

Whoa, now 7!


by chillrob P

Four repetitive, rule breaking posts in a row from Washoe.

Whoa, now 7!

Wait do you mean that if I post a guy holding up a gold plated gun to some gold grills in south central LA, that's not a representation of all Americans?

Is that what you're saying?


Reducing Hamas operatives to "civilians with guns" is taking things a bit far.

There's a difference between walking around with a gun for independent self-defense and taking up arms with an organized group against an entire country.

Not saying that all insurgency is wrong, but insurgency is insurgency.


It's terrorists as per international designation, while all talk about military/civilian is useless because Gaza isn't a state , so there is no war to which Geneva conventions can apply.


by Luciom P

It's terrorists as per international designation, while all talk about military/civilian is useless because Gaza isn't a state , so there is no war to which Geneva conventions can apply.

That's a leap...


How many times did these peaceful unarmed settlers shoot and kill a palestinian neighbour?
And then stole their land and their House?

Too many TIMES!!!


How many times did they Shoot teenagers Dead in the head??

I could go on and on...


by rafiki P

Wait do you mean that if I post a guy holding up a gold plated gun to some gold grills in south central LA, that's not a representation of all Americans?

Is that what you're saying?

I mean that he just posted photos with no explanation of what they're supposed to mean.


by metsandfinsfan P

You have no idea that MUSLIM ARABS voluntarily serve in the idf

You argue here but really have no knowledge about Israel, Gaza, or the middle east in general

You said "Arab Jews":

by metsandfinsfan P

Arab jews love Israel

Arab jews voluntarily join the idf


both arab jews and muslim arab israeli exist


by chillrob P

I mean that he just posted photos with no explanation of what they're supposed to mean.

Just as a reminder, no empty* posting please. I tend to simply nuke such posts.

*posts that include pictures, videos , links without explanation.


I think that when the leader of an enemy nation explicitly endorses your movement, then it's time for our own legal system to do the same and label a movement a terrorist/eversive one and act accordingly



by metsandfinsfan P

The thought that rockets are being shot from rafah this week, but you (pw) believe Israel cannot respond because gaza has "no military" is so preposterous that I'm going to assume you are joking

You can attack enemy combatants. Doesn’t mean they are apart of a military. Doesn’t mean they aren’t a civilian.

I posted the definition

It says “literally a civilian is someone who is not a member of any countries armed forces”

Take that as you will.


by Luciom P

I think that when the leader of an enemy nation explicitly endorses your movement, then it's time for our own legal system to do the same and label a movement a terrorist/eversive one and act accordingly

Yeah well that's like your opinion, man.


by The Horror P

Reducing Hamas operatives to "civilians with guns" is taking things a bit far.

There's a difference between walking around with a gun for independent self-defense and taking up arms with an organized group against an entire country.

Not saying that all insurgency is wrong, but insurgency is insurgency.

You can be a civilian and an insurgent. They aren’t mutually exclusive. You can’t be a civilian and a member of the armed forces. Those are mutually exclusive.

by Luciom P

It's terrorists as per international designation, while all talk about military/civilian is useless because Gaza isn't a state , so there is no war to which Geneva conventions can apply.

I never said that lol I said they are civilians. You can attack civilians with guns lmao


by jalfrezi P

Yeah well that's like your opinion, man.

That’s like the definition man.




Do you guys know what police are called?

“Paramilitary”

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by PointlessWords P


That’s like the definition man.

No way man, a terrorist is like a dude who wants to kill your citizens, man, not a dude who posts about who he likes and doesn't like online or some dudes who stage peaceful protests, man.


by jalfrezi P

No way man, a terrorist is like a dude who wants to kill your citizens, man, not a dude who posts about who he likes and doesn't like online or some dudes who stage peaceful protests.


You’re missing a key part of terrorism.

It’s like you people have never used a dictionary


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by Luciom P

I think that when the leader of an enemy nation explicitly endorses your movement, then it's time for our own legal system to do the same and label a movement a terrorist/eversive one and act accordingly


I think western liberals severely underestimate how much progressive elites, and more generally young people, are motivated by anti Western civilization animus and are completely ok with being on the same side as Khameni. And how much Chinese cyber propaganda efforts through Tik Tok is involved in this.

Dont forget, recently social media platforms had to censor Bin Laden material, because liberal elites were concerned how much young people thought he was making good points.






You guys are literally all wrong. Congratulations. You’ve spent days arguing something you know nothing about.


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by Dunyain P

I think western liberals severely underestimate how much progressive elites, and more generally young people, are motivated by anti Western civilization animus and are completely ok with being on the same side as Khameni. And how much Chinese cyber propaganda efforts through Tik Tok is involved in this.

Dont forget, recently social media platforms had to censor Bin Laden material, because liberal elites were concerned how much young people

Well i think being on the side of Khamenei (or any other leader of an enemy nation, like Putin or Xi) should be a very serious criminal offense that as a minimum bans you for life to ever holding office , and potentially for any public job (or job financed with public money), before you think about jail time and stuff.


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