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I dont recall the "Trump bureaucracy" specifically pushing the Russian disinformation narrative. Seems it was mostly Democratic operatives (aka FORMER intel officials) pushing the narrative, and then the MSM ran with it, despite all the evidence going the other way.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19...
Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say

There lies the problem !
Everything can be true when no empirical evidences needed to distinguish between reality and fiction .
That is why the political narrative and conspiracy theories are so popular for certain kind of people ….

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So was it the bureaucracy or people who no longer work there? Seems you'll change up the language depending on what narrative you're trying to sell.

Why would the media do follow what someone not even currently in the government says to do?

But if they did, then there was absolutely nothing wrong with that. A private citizen tells the media that he thinks a story isn't true? I see no problem there.

this is the whole game. "the government hid the laptop from us and the FBI covered it up!!" ok, well it was Trump's government and Trump's FBI in 2019 when the laptop was received... "must be secret democratic operatives"....

rational people can't follow along with the nonsense which then somehow becomes proof of an even larger coverup somehow.

It's like the Chris rock bit. Never, ever admit to cheating even if you're caught on tape. Hold onto that sliver of deniability.
Just coincidental that the laptop "discovery" happens right before election day?
This is high stakes, not some local election. The Dems called in some favors and got 50 spooks to sign a letter saying it's the RuSsiAns and used their power to get the story in the media squashed. Now four years later, of course you keep denying it. Why in the hell would you admit to anything? And at the end of the day with this hard drive being passed around, nothing has come out of it.
Just take the L on this one republicans. You mop the floor with the Dems in govt when it counts like the supreme. I guess the laptop is just something to keep your base fired up.

The laptop topic is just an example of how democrats use the "deep state" (IE how democrats controlled civil servants are disloyal to the country and loyal to them) and just a reminder of why having a complete spoil system is necessary for republicans to attempt to fix society.

IE republicans need to change rules and make it so that the totality of federal employees can be fired "at will", and then fire all democrats and democrat leaning federal employees and only hire under party lines.

Will this disrupt many functions of government? Yes of course.

But most of them as useless anyway so...

So what are the solutions to this skewed, undemocratic element of society from the right:

1) dramatically reduce the number of public employees whenever it's possible

2) dramatically reduce the role of government in general to make it easier to achieve 1)

3) make as many public employees as possible (ideally all) fire-able at will

4) make it illegal for public employees to unionize

5) make it illegal for public employees to be partisan (it already is for judges in many countries so it's plausibly constitutional to extend this to all of them)

6) for the remaining necessary roles of government increase wages enough so that ambitious smart rightwing leaning people can be interested in those positions

Maybe democrats should do it right away towards republicans lol….
And then don’t complain how bad government employees are because they are hired because of their political lattribute and not their qualifications.
What a bad view of democracy .
That is actually a totalitarian traits .
I don’t think China, Russia and other regime like that are good .

FWIW for guy that claims itself a libertarian and fight for the first amendment u have a strange way on controlling on what people should belief to be able to work for the government….
and for a guy that believe pure capitalism is the way to go , based on who do the best work , it’s all good but not for the govern.
So u promulgate an inefficient government?
Strange .

lol?

How would you determine which federal employees are democrats? We have a secret ballot.

Haha. With the minor exception of LEO and the military, which gets more than half the federal budget.

Assuming you are right, you are once again describing normal life as it is freely described in introductory courses on these subjects.

Like, people who work in education think more money should go to education? You don't say?

People who work in the military often think more money should go to the military and favor military solutions.

Biden must remove all Republicans from LEO and military to save our country.

not sure why you think the militaries lean right.

maybe you are thinking about the fit soldier who does difficult missions, but why on earth would the bureaucrats lean right lol? who do you think gets the big money in the militaries? the navy seals or the paper shufflers in offices?

ofc militaries skew male a lot and men vote right more than women but controlling for that do you have any real data to claim militaries vote republican more than the population does?

who to fire and why would be up to the president (or anyone he delegates to the task) , and criteria on purpose won't exist other than "this admin doesn't want you".

it can by anything including looking at your social media activity.

same as normal employers routinely do btw

Do you understand that there is a fixed pay scale? (At least in the US. IDK about anywhere else.) As an anecdote, I know for a fact my brother-in-law got a lot more when he was deployed than when he was a "paper shuffler"?

That's not really the point though.

The point is that it's insane to suggest that because members of government agencies naturally lean this way or that, a dictator should purge the agency of such people and replace them with people from only one party, or (what it would really be) toadies loyal to him, personally.

It's also a weird but typical perversion to look at a country where poor/minorities fill prisons for nonviolent crimes that higher strata commit with impunity and be like, "some RW NGOs got audited once and then recieved compensation. The right are being overwhelmingly persecuted by the system to the point where we need a dictator to rescue them."

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That's not really the point though.

The point is that it's insane to suggest that because members of government agencies naturally lean this way or that, a dictator should purge the agency of such people and replace them with people from only one party, or (what it would really be) toadies loyal to him, personally.

It's also a weird but typical perversion to look at a country where poor/minorities fill prisons for nonviolent crimes that hig

what luciom do not realize is that those actions he advocate was done by democrats , he would call those actions fascism straight up ....

remember he claim those mask mandate was the worst fascism act since ww2 ....

its the typical zealot "i know the truth and anything is ok to enforce it on others" as long its on my side.
But when something is agaisnt his thinking ho now freedom is in danger lol...

its a very dangerous though process he holds and he doesnt even see it.
well now we see how fascism did got implemented where he comes from right ?

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That's not really the point though.

The point is that it's insane to suggest that because members of government agencies naturally lean this way or that, a dictator should purge the agency of such people and replace them with people from only one party, or (what it would really be) toadies loyal to him, personally.

It's also a weird but typical perversion to look at a country where poor/minorities fill prisons for nonviolent crimes that hig

you keep using the word dictator in a way that doesn't make much sense.

if the rules are changed to allow something, and the rules don't violate the constitution, it's not a dictator.

there is no constitutional right to have a permanent, unmovable, huge amount of public employees. on the employees side, there isn't any constitutional right to have what amounts basically to tenure, in Publix jobs.

if you read what basically any successful head of any organization tells you, personnel is almost always the most important part of an organization. hiring and firing decisions are thus one of the most pivotal set of choices for a leader.

if you eliminate the possibility for the executive to shape the workforce working for it in it's image, you are dramatically reducing options for any new administration to try to achieve it's policy proposals.

I know the left in general sees the birth of a huge mandarin class of for-life civil servants as one of the big success story of the last 100-150 years.

why wouldn't it, they managed to create a permanent pocket of people voting for them paid by taxpayers, whose entire career is predicated on building a more bloated and assertive state according to leftist tenets.

similarly to how welfare works, creating permanent wardens of the state through poverty traps (situations in which you are worse off if you try to care for yourself as the money you get from working is less than what you lose from going out of welfare), for-life public employment, in a way a glorified welfare system for people with leftist tendencies, entrenches leftist values in society.

but that's exactly why the right has to dismantle it as much as possible if it wants to have a chance of changing society trajectory toward right wing outcomes.

claiming it would be a dictatorship if taxpayers money get spent the way the elected leaders want it to be spent is absurd.

I'd rather claim that it is anti-democratic to create huge, non-discretionary blocks of expenses , because it removes agency from future elected leaders, it commits them to a path they haven't chosen and they might very well strongly disagree with, removing the ability for the vote to change outcomes.

and, mind, this was all done on purpose. FDR and congress at the time started this. they put participatory payments in the social security law so that it would be illegal to remove benefits in the future, they made the system permanent and hardly modifiable outside of some small change in numbers, and only for future participants.

smart of them sure, they hijacked the legal system to make constitutional level (ie changes that are almost impossible to undo) changes without needing to amend the constitution, to shape society toward leftism.

then Johnson built on that with medicaid/medicare.

they act as if it manifest destiny to necessarily have a leftwing bias in society, that it has to be permanent so that elections matter less and less, and always built upon increasing the encroaching of the state on the freedoms of individuals.

and they did exactly the same with civil servants. a disastrous proliferation of agencies detached from the executive but with executive-lile functions. mandarin posts created to be filled with leftist people out of leftist colleges taught by leftist professors about the arc of history of society bending left. so that power more and more stays in leftist hands, regardless of electoral outcomes.

and after this military-like occupation of power by a specific ideology, which spans almost a century, you dare to call any attempt to reduce or reverse this an attempt at being dictators?

If the US constitution were changed to say that the Supreme Court and congress were abolished and now the president has all the power to himself, you think that would mean that the president isn't a dictator?

Also, I have no idea what "mandarin posts" are, but you seem not to realize that political appointees already make all policy decisions in federal agencies. The rank and file bureaucrats just have to carry out those policies, and they will lose their jobs if they don't do what they were instructed to do. Yes, it takes more work to fire a government employee, but it still happens all the time, and if one refuses to do his job or deliberately sabotages his work, he will not last long. If Trump's appointees had been competent and their employees weren't doing their jobs, they would have certainly lost them during the time he was president.

But I have never heard any examples about how the democratic deep state has sabotaged any republican policies. Do you know of any?

If the constitution loses crucial elements necessary to call the country a democracy (like separation of powers in your example) you can start using words like regime, autocracy, dictatorship and so on yes.

Not if federal employees can be fired at will though lol

Mandatory reminder to americans that 450m people have a right to vote in the EU parliament elections and we will know the official results less than 24h after the voting ends.

And we do this with pencil and paper.

And we allow vote from home in some countries (just, you have to send soon enough that it arrives when we need to count them).

Turnout at 6pm in the European elections, by selected country