Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
I'm sure it's serious, I was thinking the same thing. Windows are a bigger priority on airplanes than are video screens. It's not every day that most people get an opportunity to view the world from high in the sky. You can go a few hours without watching a video which you can do any other time.
I agreed with your general point and other examples, but you're wrong about this one.
For frequent flyers, the bolded most certainly is not true as a general matter, but I guess it always depends on the flight and the weather.
You are probably correct.
I can't imagine refusing such a request, but I guess Didace is suggesting that he would.
So who gets priority? People watching movies bother me when I'm reading. It's impossible to totally ignore when it's right next to you, and they are always laughing out loud. Do I get to say, "I'm reading here. Keep it down and shield your screen from me?"
Does anyone want to give me odds that PW is a gimmick account someone created to give the dumbest possible takes on every single topic?
Wait, the 30 some year old retired, grad student who is in the top 5 % of wage earners and wants staking for 1/3 live action and the govt to pay for his hookers despite being a real ladies man may not be real?
So who gets priority? People watching movies bother me when I'm reading. It's impossible to totally ignore when it's right next to you, and they are always laughing out loud. Do I get to say, "I'm reading here. Keep it down and shield your screen from me?"
I would view a request to close my window as trivial. But I'm not the boss of you. Do what you want. I've never had a problem with passengers laughing out loud on airplanes while watching movies, but maybe you have. People watching movies don't disturb my reading. But maybe you are more easily distracted.
This is my wife. She has over 2 million lifetime miles and has forgotten she is soaring over the world in a magical metal tube at 25,000 ft.
I want to add that I agree with your larger point. I just thought this particular example wasn't the best.
It's a question for which someone's answer doesn't really prove anything, because there are too many unknown factors. For example, if the plane is flying over some interesting scenery and the person is intently staring out the window, it seems to me inconsiderate to even make the request at that time, whereas if the person hasn't glanced out the window once the entire flight, it's quite a reasonable request.
Wait, the 30 some year old retired, grad student who is in the top 5 % of wage earners and wants staking for 1/3 live action and the govt to pay for his hookers despite being a real ladies man may not be real?
I think that a decent number of people on the internet operate in a haze. They aren't entirely serious, but they aren't pure trolls either. Many seemingly have embraced the haze and have stopped understanding or caring about the distinction.
It's a question for which someone's answer doesn't really prove anything, because there are too many unknown factors. For example, if the plane is flying over some interesting scenery and the person is intently staring out the window, it seems to me inconsiderate to even make the request at that time, whereas if the person hasn't glanced out the window once the entire flight, it's quite a reasonable request.
Fair enough. Didace is probably correct that this wasn't the best example to illustrate my larger point. In most cases, I would view the request as trivial, but if I am intently looking at a majestic mountain range or the aurora borealis, then maybe don't ask me to close the window.
I think that a decent number of people on the internet operate in a haze. They aren't entirely serious, but they aren't pure trolls either. Many seemingly have embraced the haze and have stopped understanding or caring about the distinction.
That would certainly explain someone like PW, who at times does seem like he's completely trolling (and I'm one who rarely assumes anyone is a troll, to my detriment at times), and other times seems entirely sincere.
Fair enough. Didace is probably correct that this wasn't the best example to illustrate my larger point. In most cases, I would view the request as trivial, but if I am intently looking at a majestic mountain range or the aurora borealis, then maybe don't ask me to close the window.
It got me thinking, though, about how airplane seating tests the rude-assertive-considerate-pushover range of personalities like few other situations do.
The best thing to do for airplane seating is to board the plane last, regardless of which boarding group you are in.
Most flights aren't full and you can usually find your pick of seats up front and sometimes entire sections of seats.
Just try to find a compromise. Some of each is usually best.
Dont need to fly. Just live in a flat (apartment). Especially during lockdown when the upstairs flat is stuck with 2 kids at home who amongst other things want (are being forced) to learn to play musical instruments.
Probably still more listenable than your Supertramp records though.
Chez always struck me more a a Spice Girls type of guy.
Most flights aren't full and you can usually find your pick of seats up front and sometimes entire sections of seats.
Where have you been flying to???? I do my share of flying and if a flight isn't full it's pretty damn close. Can't remember last time I saw entire sections of empty seats.
Where have you been flying to???? I do my share of flying and if a flight isn't full it's pretty damn close. Can't remember last time I saw entire sections of empty seats.
This year it's been: Phoenix to San Diego and back, Phoenix to Houston, Houston to Fort Lauderdale, Fort Lauderdale to Guatemala City, Guatemala City to San Salvador, San Salvador to Medellin, Medellin to Bogota to Villavicencio, Bogota to Fort Lauderdale, Fort Lauderdale to Greenville South Carolina, Asheville NC to Phoenix. All on either Frontier, Spirit, Avianca, or Jet Blue.
And that's pretty typical for me. I flew United last year from Chicago to Sao Paolo on a 787 and that was either full or very close to full but otherwise it seems pretty rare.
I never select my seats and can't remember the last time I was even assigned a middle seat let alone sat in one.
Wait, the 30 some year old retired, grad student who is in the top 5 % of wage earners and wants staking for 1/3 live action and the govt to pay for his hookers despite being a real ladies man may not be real?
im in the bottom 5% of wage earners btw. and I dont have hookers that I want the govt to pay for lmao
This year it's been: Phoenix to San Diego and back, Phoenix to Houston, Houston to Fort Lauderdale, Fort Lauderdale to Guatemala City, Guatemala City to San Salvador, San Salvador to Medellin, Medellin to Bogota to Villavicencio, Bogota to Fort Lauderdale, Fort Lauderdale to Greenville South Carolina, Asheville NC to Phoenix. All on either Frontier, Spirit, Avianca, or Jet Blue.
Post-lockdown cocaine trade is booming, huh?
Many of us care about other people and try to be kind and respectful to others. You can choose to be a jerk for the sake of it, I guess.
Nope. I just value vaping a lot. And other people don't get to control me, either in public or at the societal level by pushing a preferred societal narrative or another.
Like, nowadays beards are ultra common. I had one when they weren't, I actually got stopped in Italy in the aftermath of 9 11 because of the full face beard (at night in the street). I didn't cut it anyway.
